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S R Wilson
Senior Member Joined: 08 December 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 170 |
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Hi, Rozm2, Just a note to try and help clear up any confusion re seizing and sale of goods to pay bills. Obviously what follows is in very general terms and needs to be tailored to fit individual situations but, in general terms a person or body which is owed money, the Creditor, for work or services and who holds property of the person that owes the money, the Debtor, can if they so chose give notice to the debtor, in proper form. After the requisit period of time has elapsed then the creditor may sell the item held but they are under a duty to obtain the higest price possiable. This duty is usually discharged by selling at auction. The Creditor will then deduct what he is owed plus the costs of sale from the proceeds of sale and account to the debtor for any balance. If the sale does not produce sufficent funds then the creditor can persue the debtor for the then otstanding balance using the usual methods, eg County Court summons etc. Now the disclaimer!!!! You are dvised to take legal advice before taking or refraing from taking any steps as a result of anything you have read in this post. Hope the above is of some assistance. |
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SRW
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Christian
Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775 |
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From Phil Simons; Uppermost boat is Shearwater ex BPB 71.5ft MTB 477 ex MGB 158. Bottom boat is Talisman ex BPB 71.5ft MTB 455 ex MGB 136. The beamy hull above her is an ex Norwegian Nasty Class called Four Acres, ex Jo ex P 346. So we definately need to persuade someone closeby to paddle over and take a few pictures! Edited by Christian |
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jimmy p
Senior Member Joined: 26 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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Who do i talk to about aquiring 458?? I know most people would call me mad but think on this. She sank last year as a result of taking water through her decks. Needs to dry out but prob not rotten. Anyone tell me who i need to talk to on this one? Rather see her restored than a curiosity for photographers when she's wrecked. Help me on this amigos?? |
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S R Wilson
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Jimmy, Please have a look at the posts under HSL 145. Would be happy to see you there if you can make it. Regards |
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SRW
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CCFT
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9 Feb 07 Hello Gentlemen (Hello Christian), I discovered your forum today via the Naval Museum of Manitoba discussion forum and was greatly interested in your discussions about I belong to a trust based in As a part of this endeavour, I visited MTBs 455/Talisman, 458/Mahaba, 477/Shearwater and 486/Sungo in Two additional boats of this class that we were investigating were There, in a nutshell, is where the CCFT stands in regard to these existing MTBs. At least MGB 81 has been saved (and beautifully restored – I visited her also at the kind invitation of her owner, Robin Clabburn), but we will not stop until at least 486, and perhaps one other, is also preserved.
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jimmy p
Senior Member Joined: 26 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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Hi CCFT Anywhere in malta to keep her while you look? Let me know your progress & try to get Ambra a stay of execution.What a waste |
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S R Wilson
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Having read the above posts it is a crying shame that the history of Nations is being lost in this way. Surerly there are people out there who even if they don't want to or can't for whatever reason get their hands dirty have the money and National pride, to help ensure that these boats and others like them don't go down without a fight.No pun intended.
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SRW
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johnk
Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355 |
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Hi All,
Just read the post ex Lt Armstrong, wrote elsewhere about Ship's Monthly article on Sungo/486. Very interesting and like Sentley I to am so fustrated that we are losing these craft, what a pity there is no where in Malta to keep hold of Ambra, really can't offer much in the way of ideas there, but... re the UK without saying at this stage I could do anything at all..if you private message me I might have some thoughts, sorry to be dense, but we are looking at around 70' aren't we? So glad you thought well of 81, indeed a great job done, would also as ever point to MTB 102 and Medusa, understand as ever running such vessels can be difficult but they prove not impossible and I come down on the side of the best thing is to run them if at all possible, only laying up if not. I wish you all the best with your efforts, and will watch for developements if you would be so kind as to keep us all updated. Regards
John |
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Christian
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Hello Nicholas Sad news indeed about Raia, Dad would have bought her if the boatyard here hadn't been developed. He saw her in ferry service only a few years ago, she surely can't have been too bad. I do hope you and JohnK can find a temporary place for Ambra in the UK. I'm sure Phil has told you already there are at least 4 more in the UK, at Hayling Island Platypus ex 467 and Fontenay ex 437. At Hoo Elektra ex 469 and on the Medway Quiberon ex 505. Sadly another good one was broken up in Spain quite recently, she was never identified but served for very many years in the Spanish Customs service as Milano. I don't know of any others still surviving. Regards, Christian. |
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S R Wilson
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Hi, Christian. You have kindly listed the 4 other boats that are in the UK. Do you mean that they are for sale or just that they are in existance? If for sale do you have any details to pass on please Regards |
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SRW
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