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Hi Graham,

 

Indeed, as with Tatershall Castle, stripped and generaly b...d.g.!, For £300,000 a lot could be done to secure her but..what about ongoing as discussed, some would say some sort of static us is better than nothing, I don't know, people with great brains and imagination than me hopefully will come up with something, what I don't know!. Agree, you would not think we are an island nation.

 

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Hi Johnk

Strangely enough I used to have many a good night on one of the Tatershall Castles sister ships, the Lincoln Castle. She used to be docked on hessle foreshore as a pub. Unfortunatly the owner of the time well and truly milked her and even the responce of the Hull people could not save her for the area. She now I believe is in Grimbsby where she is a restaurant. Or still undergoing repairs will have to look that one up.

 

indeed £300,000 would go a long way towords doing the K up. as for the ongoing expence, well that is the main problem, as yet I dont think anyone has conme up with a plan in order to go to the councill and argue there case.

One of the main problems at the moment is the bad publisity it is recieving. Every bad article looses the K another group of people who where behind it.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2008 at 7:22pm

Since the world was scaremongered into beleiving that even artex was an asbestos hazard the prices of disposal have gone up and also come way back down, for example roofing sheets can be risk assessed, double bagged and put in a approved skip for disposal by 'average Joe'.

are the prices for the asbestos removal current in the market?

When we removed MGB 56 from Thorpe green there was 'upset' that we had removed a local landmark!

I do  not know the area but if she were gutted and used as an art gallery or carrers office surely that would be better than looseing her alltogether? at least then the interest would still be there. I know of two barges used on the Chelmsford blackwater canal as offices.



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Recently vandals have removed some of the ‘K’s mooring chains, they have been replaced with rope hawsers and chains, however as this video shows she now had a worrying amount of movement and the steel framework she is resting against is now slowly ‘chewing’ its way through the hull side.

The strong winds we have had today have in fact been so strong as top pivot her against the steel framework and almost slam her bows and then stern against the quay side.

Well done the waterways authority on re-mooring her so well!

Oh well at least the MOD has sense and wont help pay the costs of her destruction. Though I believe they are offering free advice!

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I am afraid the Asbestos content is a bit more than gaskets, more to do with the lagging around all the engine turbo's and exhausts with it going all the way up the stack, bearing in mind she was built in the 50's she will have Asbestos insulation throughout the boat, in regards to the anchor chain somebody in the know took that, as she is a Minesweeper her anchor chain was not steel but non ferrous a bit more valuable as scrap (she still carried them as she was only on loan initially), most probably the Navy are still a bit sore about the way they were forced into selling the boat so cheaply as they could not get her back except in a skip. johnk will confirm that the plastic version "Wilton" was stripped out and is now a yacht club headquarters on the Medway, it  shows it can be done, but if they can't make the "Bronington" pay with it's Royal connection plus Stockton Council want it away from their Wharf, to save her is a difficult proposition,where is she going to go to get visitors aboard. They could put her alongside "Endeavour" if the people who run it agree as one of the last "Wooden Walls" (although she is a composite construction) but I don't think that will happen unfortunatly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 7:46am

Hi All,

 

Indeed, Wilton was done on the Medway but I think now in Essex, but of course "plastic" so slightly different proposition, and of course a new use found, although heavily modified from the photos I recall. Lincoln Castle I think went as a museum to the fishing industry but as you say, not to sure. Bronnington mentioned before and quite right, if "they" can't be bothered to look after her....I am sorry that I can't offer anything positive to say, you would have thought as she is there on the waterfront she could be reclycled as a usefull community space as Clive says, with some work even getting the cadets back, if they are not to settled ashore now!.

 

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 In regards to "K" somewhat foolish the Sea Cadet Committee took her on  without any money in the kitty to keep her maintained which is why she quickly fell into disrepair after a couple of fires with the genny's which they had to run as there is no shore power to her, it appears that the Cadets now have a shore base and have just left the mess behind, there has not been any statement from Sea Cadet Committee as it appears that they think it's all the Navy's fault for selling them the boat with asbestos aboard but have said nothing about the fact that they bought the boat Knowing there was asbestos aboard, what do they think was wrapped around the engine exhausts, Cotton Wool!!!!!    I saw the Lincoln Castle at the Lowestoft Fishing Museum when I docked there many years back, the Museum was an excellent place with a talk given by a former Skipper of a Trawler used by the R.N. patrol Service for Minesweeping during WW2. A brave chap especially when the one next to him hit a mine and promptly sank in the Thames Estuary.  R.B.D.G.
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For Lowestoft read Grimsby of course, it was just another Port to me at the time and it was a fairly long time ago
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2008 at 4:20pm

I see, would seem they would not want to get aboard again! most unfortunate, must have seemned a good idea at the time, belive there is a unit on the Thames aboard a minesweeper. Interesting re the museum, knew the Rev Melvin formely of the RNPS who tride to save the last Motor Minesweeper 191, he passed away and the vessel broken up, was in a state but...another bit the dust.

 

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Johnk, if "K" had been moored at Scarborough or Whiby it would be a different matter.
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