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    Posted: 29 September 2016 at 10:59am
Hi all,

It's been a very long time since I posted here and quite a lot has changed since then. Back in 2010 I was researching RASC launches and the 42 Water Transport Unit. Now my work life sees me researching First World War vessels and D-Day, but today I'm posting in relation to a personal interest.

I'm trying to map all of the surviving Coastal Forces boats from the Second World War. You can see the working map here. Wherever possible, I'm trying to pinpoint the exact boat on Google Maps (save when the vessel is in a building). 

However, I'm aware it's probably far from complete. I've already done quite a bit of digging around this and many other websites, but I thought that it might just be easier to ask the experts. If anyone can add any surviving vessels to this list, I'd love to hear from you.

Specifically, I'm only (at this stage) looking for Royal Navy Coastal Forces vessels of the Second World War (I know I have a few First World War era CMBs and an S-boat on the map!). In future this may be expanded to Army and RAF vessels, and a separate map may also list the final resting places of vessels that have succumb in the last decade or two (Western Lady or MTB 245 for instance). 

The map is destined for a website on Coastal Forces that I'm compiling to raise awareness of this aspect of history and in an effort to see more of it preserved before it's too late.

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Steve
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And if anyone knows the original identity of this Fairmile... 
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ML 357 FOR SALE

Hi All,

It's been a long time since I last visited here too. However, the current owner,of ML 357 (one of the last surviving Fairmile Bs that saw action in WW2) has asked me to inform any interested parties that:

He has had to put 357 up for sale due to ill health, and he would like her to go to some one who would value her for her history.

The price is 32000 and comes with the mooring, Please phone: 07818813061 (for further information) or email to - tooseyboy52@yahoo.co.uk

Over the years quite a lot of her operational history and stories from her various crew members have come to be saved. (See "Aegean Memories" on the World Naval Ships Forum site.) A couple of her crew members are still with us (albeit they are in their 90s.)

Hoping that someone out there, (with deep pockets and lots of enthusiasm, and a desire to retain some British history, will come to her rescue.)

Please feel free to re-advertise, where ever any of you feel it might be of most benefit.

Thankyou,

Bee, Daughter of ML 357's (1942-1945) wireless operator, Douglas Barrow
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Also, Hello Steve,

I'll contact one of this forums members, Roger, for you and see if he knows of the former identity of the Fairmile you've sent a link to.

Great to see that you've mapped the location of ML 357 (along with the locations of other survivors.) Unfortunately, although Terry has tried to get her up to scratch I think it has been much more than a one man job. She needs a lot of work still and for some dedicated enthusiasts to try to source all the bits and pieces she'd need to be brought up to scratch. Over the years everything that could be removed from her, had been.

Well done on your efforts for keeping history alive.

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Hi Bee,

Glad you like the map, thanks for your comments. Sorry to hear that ML 357 hasn't worked out. I've shared the advert with some contacts in Portsmouth and the Netherlands. We'll see I guess. Do keep us updated.

Out of interest, do you know much about the vessel alongside 357 in St Osyth? I only ask as she appears to have similar lines to the Fairmile and evidence of at least some double diagonal. The one immediately alongside shown in this picture:



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roger P Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 October 2016 at 7:44am
Hi Steve,

My apologies for the delay in responding, but I have been (and still am a tad) quite unwell. 

Anyhow from what I can gather the 'Waitanic'/'Motuni' was formerly ML 406 of the RNZN being built at Associated Boat Builders of Auckland. All twelve MLs for the RNZN were built in Auckland at three different boatyards. If you wish to know more such as dates built etc, just post a response here, I'll keep watch.
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Modelling Allied Light Coastal Forces 1914-1945.
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Hi Roger,

Many thanks, get better soon.

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Hi Steve. Sorry, me again, Peter Leggett, former owner of ex-MTB253. Just saw this post. The blue craft is not ex-CF, but is the "Maplin", built post-war as a 115-foot minesweeper, but never entered service, apparently, and became the Port of London Authority Lower Thames area survey vessel, mainly dealing with the area from Erith downstream and out to sea to the lower limit of the PLA area.  Lower area had the Maplin, and upper area had the Thame II. When at speed under her twin Paxmans, she was an impressive sight. Like everything else she became a victim of cuts. De-engined she was sold to a restaurateur for use on the South coast, but the tug messed up, and put her on the Goodwins. This bent a shaft. She was then sold to Carlo deChair, son of the former owner of St Osyth Priory, Somerset deChair. Carlo loved minesweepers, and used also to have another just below Cadogan Pier, Chelsea. He had Maplin towed to St Osyth, and I was there when she appeared under tow. I helped sell her to her next owner (as Carlo didn't like his tel no. made public, tho I had it) and under the owner after that she had the present superstructure built. She is absolutely vast inside, even before the deckhouse was constructed. The hull is mainly double diag, but triple diag forrard, and she is incredibly solid. However, not a subject for your CF collection. Sorry.
Peter Leggett, former owner (1976-1991) ex MTB 253, later Motor Yacht Medyna.
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Hi again all,

Many thanks for your comments. Roger, a quick bit of targeted googling confirms that it was ML 207 - this article makes good reading. I hope you get better soon.

Peter, thank you for the information about Maplin. This, along with the other finds I'm making, has lead me to decide to make a second map, recording other services (ie Army and RAF launches), along with post war and international Coastal Forces craft, to create a second map.

You can see both of them on my website. It's still Coastal Forces focused, but it would be a pity not to map as many other heritage vessels when that information is being come across so frequently. It'll be added to as and when.


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Steve
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