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    Posted: 01 February 2009 at 9:08am
Good evening.
 
Some progress on MTB245 has been made today.
 
Length overall                                                             71.0 ft.
Breadth.                                                                            19.5 ft.
Depth keel to deck                                                      9.6 ft.
Weight estimated                                                       20.0 tonnes. 
 
1. Myself and David Earle Payne went to the boat this morning, and with the help of Ian Macgillivray, the owner, had a good look over. Some photos attached showing the boat, the original Wardroom settee, the fore peak and a keel shot.
Ian advised us that quite a bit of original remained inside her.
It appears that all the bulkheads remain intact.
The decks were covered with timber before the glass was put on.
 
2. Richard Basey and Keith Wood of the MTB102/Newson Yard ( www.mtb102.com and www.newson.co.uk )have been requested to come down and see the boat as soon as possible.
The reason for this is that  they are both best qualified to asses her, and as they will be responsible  for her restoration, they are the best people to judge wither she should be taken on or not. It is hoped that this visit will take place this coming week.
Tom Cunliffe ( www.tomcunliffe.com ) was also with us, and Tom has offered to assist as best he can.
The planned survey by John Budden will probably not be now needed. Thanks John.
 
3. Ian (the owner) has very kindly offered us as follows.
a. The boat can be sold to the MTB102 Trust/ Newson Yard for 1.00.
b. Ian has agreed that we have till the end of Feb to get our act together, or she will go to others who have shown interest. Ian would prefer she goes to the Trust/Yard.
c. In the event we proceed , Ian has agreed to allow us to remove the accommodation structure, whilst she is on her mud berth.
We have 4 volunteers for this job, David E-P, Richard H, Simon and his son David.
This is to facilitate her movement under the river bridge as well as to fit under road bridges en route to Lowestoft. Thanks Ian.
 
4. The quote for a seaway tow has come in at 12,000.00.
A tow was not seriously considered anyway, as the cost to prep for a tow would have been about 5000.00...total tow cost about 20,000.00 with insurance etc.
 
5. A quote has come in for the road haulage from the same company which took the MASB from Southampton to Lowestoft. This amounts to 2500.00 plus vat. (to be recovered through the Trust). This is much better than the first quote received, and they know the way.
 
6. The cost for craneage will be found, but is expected to be in the region of 1000.00 plus vat.
 
7. The cost to move the boat to a suitable lifting berth, as well as insurance etc is expected to be about 1000.00.
 
8. A contingency cost of say 1500.00 to cover unknowns which may be come wellknowns is suggested.
 
9. A minimum amount of 6000.00, plus vat at 15%  900.00 = 6900.00 needs to achieved to complete the move to Lowestoft.
 
10. The present pledged amount is now 500.00..for which many thanks all who have offered.
 
We are optimistic at this time that the boat will be assessed as ok to go.
If this is so, we have then to find the full amount required to move her, at very short notice, and we will be requesting the help of the media, as well any donors who you may be able to persuade, to take part in this project.
 
Sitrep 2 will follow on Monday, with a proposed schedule for the next 2 weeks.
 
Richard Hellyer
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Ladies & Gentlemen,

I am assuming that if you are reading this, then you will have some level of interest in what happens to MTB 245!
As you will have seen from the previous posts, there is a strong possibility that 245 may be 'saved' you will also be aware that there is a very short, tight, time scale to achieve this!
With these points in mind - WHAT ARE WE ALL PREPARED TO DO?
Pathfinder will be away for the next two weeks, and has asked me to 'co-ordinate' things in his abscence.
We currently have volunteers prepared to assist Ian Macgillvray in removing 'The Shed' from the hull to make life easier and lighter for her trip to sunny Lowestoft! (if we get the go ahead from the specialists from 102/Newsons)
To fund this stage of the project we require around the 6,000 mark. We are hoping that we will get some support from local media sources, and other grant possibilites, this is always the favoured option, because it isn't our money! however these sources may not be availible immediately and as you can probably imagine if this is to go ahead then it needs to happen NOW!
Let's not dither with this - it will either happen or it won't - THE CHOICE IS YOURS!
I know that money is not the easiest thing to raise, and we don't have enough to do all of the things that we would like to do - but there are other ways, let's have your thoughts and ideas.
Don't forget that the BMPT has its own Ebay site, so if you have anything to sell do it there so you can donate a percentage to the BMPT for this project (anything from 10% - 100%)
 
NOW OR NEVER, THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!   Smile  Cry ?
 
 
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Telephone: 07850653619
or through the forum.
 
 
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Gentlemen,
 
This covers the proposed meeting on the 7th February on MTB245.
 
From my personal view, the project must be processed with great care and attention to sensibility, and that we do not allow the mists of our heritage to blind the mind..!
 
I do not wish to be involved unless we stick to the agenda, and that all decisions are taken after discussion with the team above. This will allow common sense to prevail.
 
I am away for 2 weeks and David Earle-Payne has agreed to take the weight over this period.
 
I have asked David to copy me in, so I can respond where necessary.
 
For the meeting on Saturday, D E-P will cordinate with you and Ian..
 
Richard Basey         01603  782068
Keith Wood                01502 57490
Ian                                   0780 9019319
Tom                                 07818 400982
Alan                               07836 364960
John                               01489 784202 after 1800 please.
 
I feel that the result of the meeting should be sent to all those addresses on this email, in order that questions can be raised if necessary.
 
Pledges now at 850 thanks to Christian and His Father.
 
Good luck.
 
Richard Hellyer
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Good morning.
 
The situation remains steady at the moment, and the next step will be to get the boat looked at by Richard Basey and Keith Wood, from Lowestoft.
 
The plan is for RB and hopefully KW to come down this coming Saturday, the 7th February.
 
David Earle-Payne will coordinate the visit with the boat owner Ian, and we hope that John Budden can also be in attendance.
 
On completion of the visit, a decision will be made as to whether we go ahead with the project, or not.
 
If the decision is no go, then all our project activity will cease.
 
If the decision is to go ahead, then the process of fund raising will get underway.
 
Before any physical action can be undertaken on the boat, the full finance needs to be in place, to ensure the successful completion of the move to Lowestoft.
 
If we are unable to achieve the financial target within our available timeframe, ie the end of February, the project will have to be terminated.
 
Once this financial security has been achieved, volunteers will be asked to attend the boat. 
This volunteer situation will be revisited when the time is right, and Ian, the owner, has requested that visits to the boat in the meantime, are only to achieve the immediate needs of the project.
 
David Earle-Payne will issue Sitrep 3 after the weekend meeting.
 
Your patience with the project process is much appreciated, and any further pledges toward the financial target will be very welcome.
We have 850.00 pledged at this time.
 
Contact David phone 07850653619.
 
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Hi there,
 
All noted by me and others who are interested, clearly we need to follow the above, easy to get excited but....need to look at with a clear eye, shifting her is fine, if no vessel then can't save it, but as mentioned, to take forward will cost a few pennies to say the least. Will keep my thinking cap on to try and offer ideas re money, albeit as Richard says, time scale short for grant giving bodies, hopefully we might get through on straight donations, IF and WHEN we go, hope to offer two hands to help, quiet good at lifting, shifting and sweeping at least. Look forward to hearing post the 7th,
 
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It may be worth contacting this lot....

http://search.hlf.org.uk/nhmfweb/aboutthenhmf

 


this kind of thing does seem to be just what they are there for.


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Hi Gareth,
 
Just tried the link, indeed the Heritage Lottery Fund could well be tried later, won't be able to get anything in the short timescale we have to shift the vessel, but possibley IF she is taken on post the 7th, can only hope we can if so, need to raise the 6900 pronto.
 
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Thanks to Pioneer for editing the link,  it seems to work now.
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Gareth,
 
Thanks for that, we will be contacting them, although as you may have seen recently there is an issue with boats that move! it's ok if they stay in one place like the Cutty Sark but if they are on the move they may not qualify!
 
 
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