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BRAVE P1011 & P1012

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Category: Boats (In alphabetical order)
Forum Name: Brave Class
Forum Description: Discussion about Brave Class boats
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Printed Date: 14 April 2024 at 12:21pm


Topic: BRAVE P1011 & P1012
Posted By: d-zine
Subject: BRAVE P1011 & P1012
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 10:57am

I have come across a couple of images of the the Brave class which claim to be of P1011( BRAVE BORDERER) &P1012 in close formation during trials.

Can anybody confirm the identities/name of the second craft and also an explanation for the difference in superstructure

 

 



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Posted By: Cresta
Date Posted: 05 July 2006 at 10:59am
That must have been fun !


Posted By: peterm
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by d-zine d-zine wrote:

I have come across a couple of images of the the Brave class which claim to be of P1011( BRAVE BORDERER) &P1012 in close formation during trials.

Can anybody confirm the identities/name of the second craft and also an explanation for the difference in superstructure

 

 



Posted By: peterm
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 8:43pm

Hi There, P1012 was HMS Brave Swordsman, sistership  to  HMS Brave Borderer, Sorry cannot help with superstructure differences, both boats retained superstructure as built until they de-commissioned they were ythen  used as range targets in Wales,  does anybody know present whereabouts of these vessels ??

Pete



Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:21pm

Hello Pete,

I am told that both boats were bought after their RN Service by Mr Hayden Baily -  Brave Swordsman was first thought to be secure in a private museum but owing to the very poor condition of the Hull etc the owner decided to use them as part of a 'spares pool' for his Fast Yacht 'Brave Challenger' (ex Mercury), both vessels being 'broken' (by Messrs Pounds of Portsmouth, it is believed). The 'spares pool' also received parts from the purchase of the ex German/Hellenic Navy craft - "Strahl" and "Pfiel" (export Vosper 'Brave' and 'Ferocity' class).

Sadly the opportunity to preserve a truely unique and classic craft was lost.

Regards

Ted



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Posted By: mike harrison
Date Posted: 22 July 2006 at 7:04am

Hi. the ID of the Brave class Patrol boats in the photo is:- Brave SWORDSMAN IS ON THE PORT  SIDE OF BRAVE BORDERER, the difference between the 2 craft is  in the Bridge shape which differ on both craft.

Regards

MIke Harrison.



Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 16 August 2006 at 7:18pm

Hi Cresta

How about this for fun?!

Not close enough?......

Norwegian Navy,Tjeld Class,1963.Barking.

Regards,Christian



Posted By: Cresta
Date Posted: 18 August 2006 at 9:21am
Astounding !  -  Well found Christian, I wonder what the crew thought of it ?


Posted By: E.S.ChildsDrum1
Date Posted: 02 December 2006 at 8:37pm

 

          Hi All.

 I could be wrong but I have aquired a 1: 24 Percassa Which I am going to convert to Brave Borderer. So after doing some reserch into both boats I believe that the  boat on the starboard sode is a Percassa as built for the Danish Navy These boats had a wheel house built in front of and below the bridge also the exhausts were across the centre of the transom that is between the waterline and deck wheras the gas turbine braves  had the exhausts just below the deck.

                   Gegards Ted drum1



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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 2:59pm

Plans for a model Brave Borderer;

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Plans-for-VOSPER-MTB-BRAVE-BORDERER-L-36_W0QQitemZ130084490840QQihZ003QQcategoryZ19166QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Plans-for-VOSPER-MTB-BRAVE-BORDERER-L- 36_W0QQitemZ130084490840QQihZ003QQcategoryZ19166QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem



Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 07 April 2007 at 6:47pm

The owner of brave challenger has purchased the Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret cross channel hovercraft for their Proteus engines, she is going for a full refit this year any people in the Southampton area know as to whether the refit has started yet she is a magnificent boat.



Posted By: cducane
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 10:21am
Brave Challenger is currently at Saxon Wharf.I do not know what the status is with the Proteus change over

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Posted By: John A
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 10:52am

 

               Re close formation. This was practised to form one radar image. Now add 40 gallons of diesel and old engine oil to the exhaust blast . Lyme Bay has never been the same!! Ho Ho green people.

                                   John A.

 



Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 12:29pm

Brave Challenger at her mooring courtesy of Rik Furnival;

Lucky the owner didn't see this ad;



Posted By: IainM
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 10:24am
Trolling through my picture gallery I came across three pikkies that may be of interest.  None of them were taken with the boat in mind as you'll see, but interesting detail can be discerned.

With kind permission of Norrie Parton.
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IainM


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Posted By: znzemily hu
Date Posted: 04 January 2013 at 2:27am
Brave Challenger is currently at Saxon Wharf

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