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Printed Date: 16 June 2019 at 1:46pm


Topic: Caprella
Posted By: Pioneer
Subject: Caprella
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 3:51pm

Can anyone help in tracing this unique vessel?

Built as a Torpedo Recovery Craft in 1943 -she was bought off the Admiralty in 1946 by Sir Harry Ricardo (1885-1974) who named her 'Caprella'. Used regularly until 1955 - she was sold to J Blackwell of Clitheroe Lancs. J Blackwell remarkably owned her until 1999 and she had regularly been reported at Glasson Dock (at least 1996-99). Sold on once more in 1999 - her new owners made passage for Ireland (late 1999) but she broke down and made for Fleetwood - from there the trail has gone cold.

Can anyone fill in her history after 1999?

Content and picture courtesy of Philip Simons and David Morrison



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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 4:42pm
Hello Pioneer,
Caprella was moved a few years ago by Andrew Rosthorn of  Sealand Boat Deliveries (01254 705225).

I'm sure that he could help you as He's a nice chap
Photo of her move below.

Regards

Don












Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 4:46pm

Hello Don

Many thanks for that - I shall pass on your message - a great picture of her move

Thanks again

Ted



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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 5:43pm

Hi Ted and Don

Caprella ex TRV 421250 is presently at Lancaster, her owner William has recently completed an 18 month refit. He can be contacted at mailto:info@ktml.co.uk - info@ktml.co.uk .This is Ron Young's picture of her in Preston Marina (note RTTL Osprey behind)

Regards, Christian.



Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 14 November 2006 at 6:14pm
Thanks Christian.  She is really drop dead gorgeous - for a boat.



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Don


Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame?


Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 02 January 2007 at 8:23pm

Christian,

Could you date Ron Youngs picture of Caprella. I am interested in the appearance of OSPREY as she appears to be deteriorating when this picture is compared to garethep's recent pictures taken in Bowling Harbour a week or so ago.

Regards

 



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Advance - Runaway Quickly , Runaway Quickly


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 03 January 2007 at 8:52am

Hi d-zine

Ron did not date the photo, he does visit the forum though so perhaps he will let us know. See "Any Dog Boats Still Around", Jim photographed Osprey in May of last year at Dumbarton, looking OK. I hope she continues to be well maintained, as you say she looks a little sad (laid up?) in the most recent pictures but then again many boats do during the winter before their "sprucing up" in Spring. 

Rgds,Christian.



Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 03 January 2007 at 6:00pm

Hi Christian,

My reason for enquiring are along the lines of the possibility of there being two boats of almost identical conversion from the original RTTL superstructure. In asking for the date I wanted to check whether photographs were of a similar period or some time apart as this might aid in my enquiry.

I am sure that there are not and I am certain that this would not have been overlooked by others better informed than I.

While on the subject of Torpedo recovery craft, I note that two others are mentioned on the forum. One on the Thames owned by a forum member and one spotted in Irvine? a couple of years ago. Are these sister craft to Caprella and is there any more information or photographs that can be added to the forum to inform us?

Regards



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Advance - Runaway Quickly , Runaway Quickly


Posted By: Andrew Rosthorn
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 12:03am
CAPRELLA was on the move again in December 2008, after a last minute rescue by her new owner, Martin Fisher who has transported her to Banff on the Moray Firth. News and pictures at http://www.btx.co.uk/transportnews08capr.html - www.btx.co.uk/transportnews08capr.html
Andrew Rosthorn, Sealand Boat Deliveries.


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 12:13pm
Hi there,
 
That's fantastic, just seen the link and pictures,  so glad to see she has been saved, be great to see her underway again sometime soon, as mentioned, very sorry to hear about the former owners problems, not suprised he decided to move on.
 
JohnK


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 14 December 2008 at 4:30pm
I'm surprised she survived the 2004 haul-out (the middle photo) in one piece!


Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 3:03pm
Well done Mr Fisher for buying her in these tough economic times, judging by the list of work she appears to have had done on her since 2004 she seems to be a bit of a bargain despite the stolen bits.  Unfortunatly scrap theft due to recent high scrap values is not just  British thing it has been happening in New Zealand of all places.  An historic boat with a famous previous Owner has to be a good buy bearing in mind today's "performance" diesels may not have existed without the Ricardo tuning eye/hand upon them, even the German V.A.G cars use his tuning principles, a truly great Engineer.


Posted By: Andrew Rosthorn
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 7:13pm
What does Christian think was wrong with the 2004 lifting arrangement?

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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 7:36pm
 Quote.  "Experts at the British Military Powerboat Trust feared no-one would come forward to tackle the refit of the fast pinnace."
  
I only heard about her from seeing the boatsandoutboards advert a couple of days ago, how long had she been 'up for grabs? I nearly gave Andrew a call!


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Posted By: Caprella
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 11:52am
Hello. What an excellent resource this forum is.

I have recently purchased "Caprella" R.A.F. TRSV 421250 (Torpedo Recovery and Safety Vessel) and will soon be beginning her restoration.

As you may have seen from the BTX website, she has suffered badly at the hands of vandals who stole her props, shafts, "P" brackets and most of the copper sheathing from her hull. Her hull and superstructure seems to be in good condition. Caprella is now fitted with Y6 Perkins 6 cylinder diesel and Newage PRM 500D2 Gearboxes, but her twin Dorman Ricardo 8VRM engines and gearboxes are still with the vessel.

I have amassed quite a wealth of historical information already, a summary of which is below. I would be very grateful for any further information or photos anyone could add.
 
Kind regards
 
Andrew
 
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History

1943 Built by Groves and Gutteridge Ltd on the Isle of White.

1944 – 1946 - RAF/Admiralty
Originally intended for service in the Far East she worked as a torpedo recovery boat for the RAF in Portland Harbour for the remainder of the Second World War.

1946 – 1955 - Sir Harry Ricardo (26th January 1885 – 18th May 1974)
Purchased by Sir Harry Ricardo from the Admiralty at a small craft disposal sale and named “Caprella”. Many modifications designed and constructed by Sir Harry including replacement of the central engine with a more economical 24hp Dorman. Laid up every winter at Shoreham. During summer months based at Itchenor in Chichester harbour. Voyages to Isle of White or around Chichester and Langstone harbours. Longer voyages each summer with larger parties to Devon and Cornwall. At Spithead for the 1953 review.

1955 – 1999 - Joseph Blackwell, Manager and Director; The Regent Axle Company
1958 Lloyd Register lists home port as Shoreham.

[1999] - [?] - Dave Whitewood

[?] - [?] - Dave Jordan, Lancashire

[?] - [?] - Mr Kennedy

2008 – 2009 - Martin Fisher, Banff

2009 – Current - Andrew Davidson, Aberdeen.

References:
Reynolds, John., Engines and Enterprise; the life and Work of Sir Harry Ricardo, Stroud, Sutton Publishing, 1999. (“Caprella” referenced with photograph pp. 224-225)


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 8:51pm
Hi,
 
Indeed, great news and I wish you all the very best for the restoration,
 
Johnk


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 03 February 2010 at 12:11pm
According to the RAF Marine Craft Directory TRSB 421250 was built by Watercraft at East Mosely, completed 23.05.44 under contract number CP 77549/42 (and was not ex-RAF) and was laid up for disposal 17.04.46 on the Hamble.  


Posted By: Caprella
Date Posted: 04 February 2010 at 6:07am
Thanks for the welcome Johnk and thanks for the information Christian. Would be grateful if you could tell me which volume of the RAF Marine Craft Directory you are referring to - I'd like to buy a copy.


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 04 February 2010 at 8:45pm
VOLUME 2;
 
CRAFT 60Ft - 41.5Ft (Includes all Pinnaces, Refuellers etc)


Posted By: John.A.
Date Posted: 04 February 2010 at 9:03pm
One of these craft is moored on the Rio Guadiana this river forms the border between Spain and Portugal. She is moored just above the village of Alcoutin a ferry runs across to Sanliucar de Guadiana on the spanish side. I have a photo of her taken this year, she is in poor condition topsides, the rear cabin has been enlarged and looks rather large and out of keeping.  In the 1960's Billy Cotton had one  as a motor yacht. Moored on Princess Pier near our berth he used to complain we woke him up in the mornings. Guess what it was called.   Wakey  Wakey !

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Posted By: andyht57
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 8:06am
The one moored in Portugal would be teh Samarang formally advertised for sale on this website. The one previously mentioned as being moored in the Thames was for sale but the owner is not now contactable.
Would should have oou own register of ships at risk with locations condition and availability, there are enough of us out there to keep an eye on them. Any thoughts??

Andy

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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 10:41am
 
 
Would like to see your photo too if poss pls.


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 11:00am
Hi Christian,
 
I know not normal procedure but your forum in box is full!
 
Johnk


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 11:34am
Hi John
 
Made some space now.
 
 


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 1:41pm
Hi Christian,
 
Many thanks
 
Johnk


Posted By: John.A.
Date Posted: 05 February 2010 at 3:39pm
Hello Andy.T.    Christian has posted a photo almost exactly the same as mine. I don't want to alarm the present owner but it looks as though a passing vessel may have damaged the starboard side. By the way if you go to the Brixham harbour web camb the Fairmile Western Lady is alongside waiting to go on the grid.

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Posted By: John m Blackwell
Date Posted: 04 June 2012 at 12:42pm
Hi. This is my grandad that owned this boat. I've spent many years since Internet searches existed to track down anything from this boat. Mr Joe Blackwell died in 1987 and it was sold before 1999 to be restored. We still have alot of The original parts from it that if it's still in action I'm sure the current owner would find of interest.last time I saw her she was sinking and in need of repair. My father has fond memories of her from childhood it was bought inn1956. 6 months after my dad was born. Does anyone know of where it currently is and what stste of repair?


Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 04 June 2012 at 2:24pm
Hi John,

Please contact Andrew at Sealand Boat Deliveries as he moved her a few years ago & should be able to help.  He's a lovely chap and one of the best boat transporters around.
Contact details on their web site: -  http://www.btx.co.uk/sealand.htm - www.btx.co.uk/sealand.htm

Cheers
Don

mailto:ros@mcr1.poptel.org.uk?subject=boat%20transport%20enquiry%20from%20internet -




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Posted By: Caprella
Date Posted: 05 June 2012 at 8:23pm
 
John I have sent you a PM. I have owned Caprella since late 2009 with the view of restoring her to as original condition as possible. In the interim I have been going round the country trying to replace the missing items required to get her working mechanically, so far have got prop logs, shafts etc. Would be interested to know what items you have. Also I have a fair idea of much of her history with Sir Harry Ricardo, but not that much from the time that your Grandad owned her.
 
Andrew Davidson


Posted By: George_eorge
Date Posted: 03 March 2014 at 2:57pm
Hello all,

I wonder if anyone might be able to help, I am trying to find out about Caprella, where she is and how she is getting on. I saw the last post on this thread was a couple of years ago, are there any updates at all?

I sent a PM to the owner - Caprella in the hope it will get through. Can anyone help at all?

Thanks in advance,

Kind Regards,

George


Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 10 March 2018 at 10:31am
Hello,

I am new here. I believe the boat described near Gibralter could well be a vessel my uncle converted to a pleasure craft in the 1960s. Can anyone confirm the name? I am looking for "Marlynne" 60 foot TRV. It was blue and white in 1963. My uncle is very interested if this was his boat. He bought it from a chap in Mawdelsey, Lancashire and he was featured twice in the Lancashire Evening Poat in 1963 and 1964 when she was launched at Preston Dock. I can post these articles later.

Andrew



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