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Topic: where are those boats for sale?
Posted By: clive
Subject: where are those boats for sale?
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 7:52pm

Hi all,

  I thought it would be an idea to start a topic where we could all post and discuss boats we see for sale (apollo duck/ boatshed or the boats for sale section for example)

 I will lead the way by stating the obvious and saying what a great shape Victorene is and  that an ideal oportunity for one of you HDML hunters has come up (although I have no seen her) as Pride of the Dart (boats for sale section)

 Also, is no one interested in Avon? unles she has deteriorated since  her work done that must be a bargain waiting for someone?

  http://www.apolloduck.com/display.phtml?aid=60080 - http://www.apolloduck.com/display.phtml?aid=60080



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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 24 May 2007 at 9:50pm

Hi

She does look very lovely! Just curious, did the Germans ever use diagonal planking? I'm guessing if she was English of this age she would have been diagonal planked.

I still haven't managed to find the sale add for MGB102, did find it once but didn't bookmark it....and lots of googling no result..perhaps thats why they haven't sold her yet!

I have some nice pics of the Finnish patrol boat for sale, engine room really is ALL engines, 3 x 1100+ HP brutes and the seller is throwing in 2 more as spares all for £30K!!!  



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Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 12:34am
Hi Clive,

This one is close to my heart for obvious reasons, hope that she finds a very good home.

OSPREY Ex RTTL 2770



The asking price is 50k and the ad can be found on the following link.

www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F142841

Ad Details

"Ex-RAF "RTTL" converted for live aboard dive charters. Coded Cat 3 until 2010, 2007 annual inspection required. For full details and sales package please contact the owner. This vessel could also be converted as a house boat."

Can't get the hyperlink to work so cut and paste into your browser.






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Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 12:38am
marksaab,

Will you be able to post some images of the Nuolli Class boat?


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Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 12:51am
Now this may have been mentioned previously as the ad is quite old now, you can see both boats on google earth

2 x Ex HAM CLASS MINESWEEPERS

1956 108ft training ship , twin V12 paxmans wooden hull,aluminum top sides, this vessel was converted to a training vessel by vospers thornycroft in 1993 ,foden generator ,spare generator available,new banks of batteries ,top speed 12 knots cruising range 800nm , power supply 240v and 24v dc ,440v ac, 3 phase ,toilets ,showers ,seperate cabins, .also ex mod 108ft mine sweeper in original condition avalable please phone for details.

All for the Princely sum of £58,995

The Ad can be found on the following link.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F105439/







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Posted By: tonclass
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 1:32am

Have spoken, this week, (via email) to 'Portishams' prospective new buyer, Shane Kennedy. (She's the ship on the left of the previous posters pic)

He is also interested in buying 'Pagham', who lies abandoned in Drummore harbour, Scotland.

No info, yet, on a buyer for 'Margheria' though

Will keep you posted.....

Rik



Posted By: jimmy p
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 2:53am

 Firsthand report & pics of POD coming soon. Anyone know to available sterngear for her? eg rudders, shafts, props, V brackets, bearings, skin fittings ect? Price of these?

 Whats Victorene up for? Looks very interesting if other ideas dont pan out. Bearing in mind she was captured, would the British boats still shoot at me when they saw her?

 Lots in the pipeline besides chaps. Lets find them a home!



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Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 9:07am

Why donít we try and get the owners of these lovely vessels to put them on the main website alongside the other boats for sale, that way the BMPT get a wee commission!



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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 1:58pm

Hi All,

 

Very interesting re the Hams, spoke before of my brief "service" aboard one many years ago, Pride of Dart, well, good to see in a way she is on offer at least, but... as you can all see from the pics, in need of a lot of TLC as stated by the yard manager!, lots of skill and or deep, deep pockets I would say. Others again in need of same, interested re reference to MGB102, obvious not MTB102! is that in fact HLS102? ex Mr Clabburn who did MGB81?. So many vessels, as talked about before, "WE" need to pick the prime examples still existing and try and do something, easy said etc I know, as ever hats off to you few doing the doing so to speak.

 

John



Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 2:23pm
An interesting vessel "Victorene". She was built in 1940 at Bremen for the Bundesmarine, one of six, some were fitted with a 400hp M.W.M. Diesel engine  and others with Deutz they also had a controllable pitch propellor, they were based at the highly secret Torpedo testing base at Ekernford and classed as Torpedofangsboot a.k.a. torpedo recovery craft.  Operated at 12kts they were not built to chase torpedo's only to recover them on the Port Side which had extra planking on ( a bit like the Ton's with the acoustic side sweeps). After the War she was handed over to Portland Test Centre as T.R.C.16 and at sometime fitted with a Paxman Ricardo engine whilst in Naval Service, S.O.C. 1964.,She is Oak on Iron frames.


Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 2:55pm

I have the Voctorene  as diagonal planked with outer layer planked for and aft, will be taking a look at her this weekend. Will also discus the legal situation re ownership. Yard in dispute with owner.engines and running gear missing.



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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 6:27pm

Hi All

Yes it should have been HSL102 Here is the link http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/cache/searchResults.jsp?cit=true&slim=quick&ybw=&sm=3&is=false&man=HSL&hmid=104&ftid=0&enid=0&fromLength=&toLength=&luom=126&fromYear=&toYear=&fromPrice=&toPrice=&currencyid=1005&city=&cint=295&pbsint=&boatsAddedSelected=-1&ps=30 - http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/cache/searchResults.j sp?cit=true&slim=quick&ybw=&sm=3&is=false&am p;man=HSL&hmid=104&ftid=0&enid=0&fromLength= &toLength=&luom=126&fromYear=&toYear=&fr omPrice=&toPrice=&currencyid=1005&city=&cint =295&pbsint=&boatsAddedSelected=-1&ps=30

81 is also up sale according to a broker list I just saw.

I will post pics of the Finn boat when I upload them to photobucket, I will just ask the seller first but it should be ok, I think i may have got his hopes up when i asked for more info!

M



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 7:59pm
The interior of HSL 102 looks really good, its a pitty there are no up  to date exterior photos I would like to see her from the outside but we are a long way apart!

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 25 May 2007 at 11:07pm

Hi there,

 

I see, so both 81 and 102 are up for sale then, 81 for sometime I think at 500,000? if only they could be "bought for the nation" and run as a trust, the idea of power boat restorations was to have an "historic flight" of the seas I believe. A lot of money put in to restore them of course so hence high price, I guess in a way if some one has that sort of money then they can afford the up keep, much discussed already. As I said, 81 been up for sale for sometime, so no body yet, it would take a real enthusiast, when you think you could get something in plastic for that sort of money!.

John



Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 26 May 2007 at 2:17pm
I have to agree you would have to be interested in the historical aspect's of these boat's to buy one as they are a bit sparce in the comfort zone down below and if you try to fit comfort you add weight. Nevertheless the workmanship is superb and they should be bought on behalf of the nation, hopefully not to be put in a Museum but as living thing's on the water.They are a lot of money for what to some people consider to be high maintenance old wooden boat's but as we love them we would, given the chance buy them or other's which have such an amazing history behind them. They are a crowd puller in amongst the tupperware, just like a Gold Star amongst a load of Wakasaki's.


Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 3:52pm
Interesting affordable classic - perhaps not a 'war boat' but a TV star - sort of.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F147087/



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 5:13pm
looks lika a bargain, surely that should be floating galley?!!

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Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 28 May 2007 at 5:27pm
That would make a nice work boat!!! or perhaps a tug!!

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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 05 June 2007 at 6:51pm

RAF planing dinghy, one of very few left and looking for a good home;

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1940-s-RAF-rescue-launch-Original-condition_W0QQitemZ260124694186QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1940-s-RAF-rescue-launch-Original-cond ition_W0QQitemZ260124694186QQihZ016QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 9:03am

The RAF dinghy advert shown above has had the following update;

On 04-Jun-07 at 14:01:23 BST, seller added the following information:

STOP PRESS

WE HAVE JUST HAD INFORMATION REPORTING THAT THIS MAY WELL BE THE LAST REMAINING BRITISH POWER BOAT 16FT PLANING DINGHY. 

THERE WERE AROUND 40 OF THESE CRAFT USED BY THE RAF AS 'WATER TAXIS' FROM 1931 ONWARDS. 

THE LAST BATCH WAS ORDERED IN 1940 AND ALL WERE OUT OF SERVICE BY THE  MID 1940S.

THIS INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE RAF MARINE CRAFT HISTORIAN.

 

 

It has 3 days to go, and there is one bid at £75.00



Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:10am
Originally posted by Christian Christian wrote:

It has 3 days to go, and there is one bid at £75.00

 

I'd love it, I've got a little 4hp Brit Minor marine engine with gearbox that'd power it (not on the plane though!) but it's too far away to be practical, someone's going to take it on anyway, nice little thing though!



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:49am

Hi rozm2,

 Did you get the engine off ebay a couple of weeks ago? I saw one which went for £40 (i think)

I too would like it but I have enough projects and it is a way away from me (says the man with a boat in Gib!)



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Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:49am
Originally posted by clive clive wrote:

Hi rozm2,

 Did you get the engine off ebay a couple of weeks ago? I saw one which went for £40 (i think

Mine came from a local auction for £28 (plus a pair of jeans where the oil tank emptied onto my trousers!), great little engine, dry sump, overhead cam, runs well, though I had to bring the mag in to sit on the aga for 1/2 an hour before it ran properly, very nicely made, hand start onto camshaft with a decompressor to get speed up, just need a nice small wooden boat to put it in, only 4hp so up to about 16 foot would probably be as much as it'd manage.



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:57am

Sounds great!

I did not go for the one I saw as I have a shed full of stuart turners and british anzanis plus weird and wonderful others this is why I must refrain from buying more stuff but I may have to put a bid in on the launch!



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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 12:04pm

Excellent, can rafwebfoot dig out a photo of one in service?

Please e-mail it to me and I'll post on the forum if you like.

It would be sad to see another "last of class" go AWOL, I wonder if anyone took on Regulus ex Hawk the very last BPB Bird Class? 



Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 12:14pm

 

 

This is what I've found, I don't know if they all portray the right size though. The one in the middle is courtesy of Ted Shute, the others are off Servicepals. 



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 8:06pm

Cheers Christian,

 I thought I had seen a picture of something similar but the cabin was not there, I know nothing about this type of craft so was wondering wether it is an addition.

  Also, how do we know she is BPB, and what engine would she have had?

 I have bid on her, if I do not get her I hope she gets restored or put in a dry shed.



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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 8:28pm
I do hope you get her Clive.   She's a bit of a basket case but could be lovely again.  Much nicer without the superstructure but I believe some originally had a superstructure (I have a photo of one somewhere).

She'd be a nice backyard project.  Like you, I hope she's saved and not hacked about anymore. 

Cheers

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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 10:00pm

Hi Don,

you say  she is a basket case, I know most wooden boats for sale are but have you seen her?

Remember what I said before about never finding less rot than you expected (506) well I am hoping all she will need is a coat of paint!!!

lets see how crazy the public is or wether they have information we don't and bid loads for her. Hopefully I will not end up with a problem, at worst I will win the auction and end up with a boat in safe storage for a while until someone wants to restore her, but the plan is to get her into a useable condition to use myself (if I 'win')



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:10pm

bit worrying, I asked the question about wether prop/rudder was present, here is the reply....

It is very dark in the barn. I thought that it would have had an outboard motor, which is not there now. Would that have had the rudder and propellor attached to that? As you can see, I know nothing about boats, so really can't help you much. Isn't the photo of the back of the boat any help?

I do not know who identified her but would want to be a bit more cirtain before bidding too much for or spending half a day collecting an old dinghy!!

Can someone please confirm



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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 09 June 2007 at 8:27am
Concern understandable, comparing Ted Shute's photo above with aft view on ad they do not look the same, the one for sale has flatter topsides and harder angles on the chines. We need Terry or Donald to read this and throw some light on it. I shouldn't worry about the outboard cut-out on the transom top, it looks like a homemade job and not original spec.    


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:04pm

Two 40ft Seaplane Tenders on e-bay at the moment;

Zeta;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1941-Brooke-Marine-Seaplane-Tender_W0QQitemZ200117951324QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1941-Brooke-Marine-Seaplane-Tender_W0Q QitemZ200117951324QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Robert;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ex-Royal-Navy-Rescue-Boat-surveyed_W0QQitemZ180126147499QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1296QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ex-Royal-Navy-Rescue-Boat-surveyed_W0Q QitemZ180126147499QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1296QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte m


Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:32pm

Robert relisted, £8500,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ex-Royal-Navy-Rescue-Boat-surveyed_W0QQitemZ180129320645QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ex-Royal-Navy-Rescue-Boat-surveyed_W0Q QitemZ180129320645QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

looks good from where I am sitting, that is cheaper than putting new engines in a boat!



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 10 June 2007 at 10:47pm

Any confirmation on the launch yet? I have not bid too much but would not want her to disappear if she were the genuine article. If anyone elce is interested let me know before I up my bid. I have only bid £115 at the moment and have not decided how much I want it.



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Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 5:52pm

Evening , 1st post so firstly hello all , secondly sorry Clive outbid you on the launch  ( to be fair though I didnt know about this site until I googled trying to find some info on what we've bought ) , we are not sure what we are going to do with 'her' yet , it depends on what we can find out about her and the condition she is in , we would like to return her to her former glory (?) or as near as is practicable . Any info you guys can give will be much appreciated . I will post some photo's of her when we get her out of the barn  ... 

cheers  ..  Hagar



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 12 June 2007 at 6:22pm

Hi Hagar,

  I did not bid enough to have a serious attempt at 'winning'. Glad to see someone has got her who will be interested in her former glory and not use her as a plant pot!



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Posted By: seamariner
Date Posted: 13 June 2007 at 11:20pm
Evening, with regard to the ex Royal-Navy-Rescue-Boat on Ebay, what a fantastic looking vessel at such a cheap starting bid, I want to start a collection now but haven't got moorings for two boats !!

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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 9:42am
Zeta seems to have been pulled off E-bay early. Anyone know why?



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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 11:16am
Interesting WW2  MFV built in 1943 by Richards Iron Works, Lowestoft, the second of the first batch of 24 ships ordered. She served at Sword Beach in 1944 and was not finally decommissioned and sold out of service until 1991.


http://ybw.yachtworld.com/core/uk/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp ?currency=GBP&units=Meters&id=1457645&lang=en&am p;&ybw=true

ONLY £1000  and 30M long.







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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 4:02pm

Hi All,

 

Just picked up a copy of Old Glory magazine, usually full of stuff about steam traction! but.. quite good this issue on marine, imparticular piece on RTTL in Limassol featured elsewhere and obituary on a Bill Smith who served in coastal forces during the war.

 

Johnk



Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 June 2007 at 5:25pm
Another one....

Ex Navy 16` diesel open launch.

 Thought to be a skimming dish or captains launch made in 1958 a classic boat,


Ebay Item number: 330135151990
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EX-MILITARY-ROYAL-NAVY-16-LAUNCH-IDEAL -FISHING-BOAT_W0QQitemZ330135151990QQihZ014QQcategoryZ1296QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting



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Posted By: triker69uk
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 2:50pm

Originally posted by dgray dgray wrote:

Zeta seems to have been pulled off E-bay early. Anyone know why?

because the mariner owner didnt mention straight away to the boat owner that it had 'sunk'. details are still a bit sketchy & the extant of the the damage is not yet known. the report is that as it was tied to the pontoon, it didnt sink completely, just took on a lot of water & requires a good clean & paint. it went down due to flat batteries & excessively wet weather (bilge pumps obviously not working due to batteries.)  Zeta is back on ebay ,boat parts & maintenance being broken unless it reaches the money it stands owner at,



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 22 June 2007 at 5:29pm

Zeta,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1941-Seaplane-Tender-40-narrow-beam-mk1-1p_W0QQitemZ200121641237QQihZ010QQcategoryZ15271QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1941-Seaplane-Tender-40-narrow-beam-mk 1-1p_W0QQitemZ200121641237QQihZ010QQcategoryZ15271QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

does anyone know what condition she is in with regard to her woodwork?



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Posted By: BoatBird
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by johnk johnk wrote:

Hi All,

 

Just picked up a copy of Old Glory magazine, usually full of stuff about steam traction! but.. quite good this issue on marine, imparticular piece on RTTL in Limassol featured elsewhere and obituary on a Bill Smith who served in coastal forces during the war.

 

Johnk

 

oooh oooh oooh send me a scan???? please??? can't send you any money for a copy but could you scan the pages about the RTTL pretty please???? Would be great (and eternally grateful!!!!!) Ta!!!!



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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 25 June 2007 at 5:17pm

Hi Boatbird,

Ah, well, don't run to a scanner unfortunatley, very small piece in the mag, perhaps someone else on the forum who has one can oblige.

 

JohnK



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 2:02pm

found this Miami while looking for the Pinnace on boatshop24.

http://www.boatshop24.com/web/en/suchen/m/index.htm?showid=1473482&MODEL=raf+rescue+&SEARCH_PRICECURRENCY=GBP&SORTORDER=1&totalcount=1 - http://www.boatshop24.com/web/en/suchen/m/index.htm?showid=1 473482&MODEL=raf+rescue+&SEARCH_PRICECURRENCY=GBP&am p;am p;SORTORDER=1&totalcount=1

just found it again 40k cheaper!

http://www.boatshop24.com/web/en/suchen/m/index.htm?showid=1436047&MODEL=rescue&SEARCH_PRICECURRENCY=GBP&SORTORDER=1&totalcount=7 - http://www.boatshop24.com/web/en/suchen/m/index.htm?showid=1 436047&MODEL=rescue&SEARCH_PRICECURRENCY=GBP&SOR TORDER=1&totalcount=7



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Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 10 July 2007 at 11:56am

Not so much a boat but a photo therof, HDML 1327 on ebay:

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAN-Motor-Launch-HDML1327-1943-Photograph_W0QQitemZ230150221101QQihZ013QQcategoryZ69747QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAN-Motor-Launch-HDML1327-1943-Photogr aph_W0QQitemZ230150221101QQihZ013QQcategoryZ69747QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 21 July 2007 at 9:38pm

here is another, we have already seen one similar for similar money, It must be the mooring worth the cash?

http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=64072 - http://www.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=64072

hmmm, I think it may be the same one,



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Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 23 July 2007 at 8:07am
Here we have an HDML Yacht conversion for sale in Spain for 125,000GBP.



www.boatshop24.co.uk/ODMxNDQ2M35IT0xMMDc%253D%3D-Classic_motor_yacht.html - www.boatshop24.co.uk/ODMxNDQ2M35IT0xMMDc%253D%3D-Classic_mot or_yacht.html


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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 25 July 2007 at 10:01pm

here is another HDML,

now where have I seen this before......

http://motoryachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=54825 - http://motoryachts.apolloduck.com/feature.phtml?id=54825



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 31 July 2007 at 12:04am

 another.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAF-44ft-Type-200-class-Seaplane-Tender-Air-sea-rescue_W0QQitemZ190136640407QQihZ009QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAF-44ft-Type-200-class-Seaplane-Tende r-Air-sea-rescue_W0QQitemZ190136640407QQihZ009QQcategoryZ129 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



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Posted By: rafwebfoot
Date Posted: 31 July 2007 at 12:48pm

Hi folks,

have had a look and she is definately a 40ft S/T and I have contacted the seller for more info.



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 11:12am

This one has been bugging me for a while, Has anyone got any info?

How old is the advert???

http://www.restore-online.com/boats_sale.html - http://www.restore-online.com/boats_sale.html



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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 11:40am

It's this one;

The photo was taken by my dad many years ago, she was sold recently and was reputedly in a bad state. The word is she is being restored now but details are hard to come by. I phoned the number on the ad last year sometime, the fellow is quite helpful but as you say the ad is very old and he has lost track of her.



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 01 August 2007 at 12:04pm
that clears that up, I suppose there must be a reason for not removing theese old adverts, the other which I always see is for Dons St which he bought ages ago..

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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 6:19pm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EX-ROYAL-NAVY-CHEVERTON-24FT-FML-LIBERTY-BOAT_W0QQitemZ320146029702QQihZ011QQcategoryZ56422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EX-ROYAL-NAVY-CHEVERTON-24FT-FML-LIBER TY-BOAT_W0QQitemZ320146029702QQihZ011QQcategoryZ56422QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Posted By: Jacmac
Date Posted: 01 September 2007 at 6:09pm
A pair of Brave class up for grabs in Belgium.

http://www.boatshop24.co.uk/UFZUMTk4NzA2flBWVA%253D%253D%3D-2_BRAVE_CLASS_PATROL_BOATS.html - www.boatshop24.co.uk/UFZUMTk4NzA2flBWVA%253D%253D%3D-2_BRAVE _CLASS_PATROL_BOATS.html


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Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 02 September 2007 at 4:53pm
Nice photo of Brave Swordsman in Sept Navy News before she broke her back at the mouth of the Thames Estuary


Posted By: rafwebfoot
Date Posted: 03 September 2007 at 6:41am

Hi folks,

I have just picked up on Christians photos he posted on 8th June. The top pic shows a 16ft Planing Dinghy (or Power Dinghy) , built by the British Power Boat Co.The other two depict 24ft Marine Tenders which were a larger version of the Dinghy.  It was great news when the 16 footer showed up on e-bay as the only other known survivor was burned at Marchwood when the BMPT fleet was 'rationalised'.  The , 24footers were also very numerous and sadly only one is known to survive, and she was being shipped home from South Africa a couple of years ago but I have not heard anything about her for some time.



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Posted By: Barryg
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 12:23am

Hi Donald

Did you ever find the drawings for the cradie and blocks for the 68ft RTTL



Posted By: rafwebfoot
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 6:29am

Hi Barry, yes the drawing is at the repro folks for copying and I will be sending a copy to 'Pheonix' this week.



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Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 2:39pm
Has anyone detailed plans for the Ton class of mine hunter?

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Posted By: rafwebfoot
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 4:55pm
A set of drawings for HMS IVESTON (MB 1452) by David Abbott can be obtained from Nexus Publications plans dept.

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Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 8:12pm
I think I may have located the original MOD blueprints for the vessel i'm interested in.Cheers anyway Donald.

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Posted By: Barryg
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 11:38pm
Hi Donald, thanks, will inform Ray tomorrow as he is on the boat


Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 09 September 2007 at 10:11am
Hi all,

Another one on Ebay.........
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/28ft-project-boat-royal-navall-pinnace _W0QQitemZ170147578507QQihZ007QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Cheers Gareth


Posted By: DMSmith
Date Posted: 10 September 2007 at 5:24pm

Hello All

I've noticed a few requests for engines and gearboxes from time to time, maybe these would be of use to someone:

A handed pair of Perkins HT6354 145HP turbo diesels c/w borg warner velvet drive 72C g/boxes and drive flanges. (They are horizontal engines and have just been removed from a Broom37 which spends most of its rtime on the river).

The engines have been very well maintianed and have had both turbos and injection pumps rebuilt in the last 18 months.

Please note this is not an advert as such and I won't make any financial gain from any sale. It's just these assemblies are ready to drop into any project, are on the deck at the yard (Reading) and will need to be shifted very soon. They are much too good to break up and sell as spares and I'd like to see them go to a good home instead.

PM me if you are interested and I'll give you the owner's details.

All the best

Dave

 



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 8:00pm
Arun has had a price reduction, £3750 now.......

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Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 5:17pm
Re Kalan, after further info it appears she survived the War and may have been given the designation FY008 during the War which I have never come across before , from her measurements she appears to  be the same as a M.A.S.B. and also had twin Lions fitted (not bad for a private Motor Yacht) and was last listed as being in the the I.O.W. area belonging to a Mr Dalrymple (1949), I would be grateful for any further info on her and wonder if she still exsists or any photo's, bearing in mind Clive's project it would be interesting to find out how they converted a Military conception into a Private Motor Yacht and did they retain the Military profile or alter it.


Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 29 September 2007 at 10:52am
Just found this on Ebay,  shame it's not a pair!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/gray-marine-6-engine-and-gearbox_W0QQitemZ120165083760QQihZ002QQcategoryZ56422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - gray marine 6 engine and gearbox


Cheers

Gareth



Posted By: jimmy p
Date Posted: 29 September 2007 at 8:03pm

 Worth buying the gray6 just for the supercharger. Shame theres not a pair, i'd be tempted to trade in my thorneycrofts lol. May be worth someone squirreling them away for a slipper launch project someday.

 See poor old Pandora's on Ebay again. also a 55ft project on there that looks interesting. up north is all i can remember but DD. Good set of motors for someone but unfortunately the pikeys cut through the shafts to pinch the props. Does anybody know what it is(was)?? River class? All academic as she looks worse than AR but worth a looksee if anyones local to it. I'll find the add & be back with a link



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Posted By: Jacmac
Date Posted: 07 October 2007 at 11:19pm
This maybe useful to someone out there. A lot of brass lamps and switches from an 1940's RAF marine craft on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marine-Brass-Lamps-swithches-from-19 40s-RAF-Airsea-RL_W0QQitemZ180166285494QQihZ008QQcategoryZ15 271QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


The item number is: 180166285494




Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 10:09am
I'm on the case!! They look like BPB, I have asked...

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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 11:47am
Hi Clive,
If she was a BPB ST, would you ask if any of the woodwork survived?
I need a lot to use as templates  for 365

Thanks
Don




Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 12:28pm
will do Don, the switches do look similar to the ones you found in your bilges.

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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 3:12pm
Thanks Clive,
He has another batch of "Marine Assorted brass locks,hinges,deck flanges etc."etc on ebay.  Item number: 180166290304

I'd love to get anything as I have no original superstructure. 

Will try to come up to Nerwsons on Sat 10th Nov to see the MASB & 102 with Mark.

Anyone know of a Bedford QL for sale?

Regards



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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 3:49pm

Hi Don,

Do you have plans? I had contacted NMM and found them quite helpful, problem is getting time during the week to go to look through.

Graham Thompson
Curator, Historic Photographs & Ship Plans
National Maritime Museum, Greenwich
Tel: +44 (0)20 8312 8600
Fax: +44 (0)20 8317 0263
E-mail: mailto:plansandphotos@nmm.ac.uk - plansandphotos@nmm.ac.uk
 
This man may be able to help you, email  took a week or so to come back. give him as much detail as poss include the build number and cross your fingers...


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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 4:06pm

Hi Don

Try this site, LOTS of good links to military stuff.

http://www.milweb.net/dealers/categories/armour.html - http://www.milweb.net/dealers/categories/armour.html

Mark

 

 



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Posted By: tonclass
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 8:08am

Hi again, I've recently been emailed by the bloke who bought PORTISHAM. He's asked if I knew anyone or anywhere where he could get a copy of "B.R.1332", Handbook for Admiralty Standard Diesel Engines Range 2 (A.S.R.2), Propelling Machinery Inshore Minesweeper Type 1.

This site, to me, would be the best at answering his query as you are all so passionate and enthusiastic about small ships (Yes I know a HAM is a bit bigger than what you're all used to)

I hope someone out there can help.

Regards

Rik



Posted By: Pathfinder
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 8:49am

Hi,

Try the Royal Navy Library Portsmouth.

 

All the best.



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Posted By: tonclass
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 8:54am

Cheers 'Pathfinder'. Not something I knew about.

Rik



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 10:32am

I'll let you have those switches Don, I won't bid against you,

Chers, Clive...



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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 12:20pm
Sorry Clive, nobody had bid on them in 4 days so I thought nobody here wanted them.  I was afraid they'd be scrapped as I don't monitor ebay all that regularly. 

I spoke to the owner and they apparently came of a 64' boat he had in the 1980's, long since broken.

If you want them, let me know and I'll not bid again.  I think I only bid to £76.

Cheers
Don



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 12:38pm

no worries Don,

my main search is for external fittings, the internals are nice to have but seeing as I have none it may not be a bad thing as older fittings tend to be less reliable.



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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 2:06pm
Does anybody know if Harry Pound's is still in buisness and if so, the contact details?
Thanks


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Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 14 October 2007 at 3:24pm

This of any use to anyone, what type of boat is it, I presume not p6's originally by S6's?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290 170698747 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290 170698747

 

Looking at her, the advert for Blue Peter open (Derby winners class) in annother window, flicking between the two windows that band along the side looks to be identical and the length is nearly right!!!?



Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 14 October 2007 at 3:25pm

Originally posted by dgray dgray wrote:

Does anybody know if Harry Pound's is still in buisness and if so, the contact details?
Thanks

 

He was about three years ago, my mate spoke to him about a boat he had, and I believe they bought the shnellboot (prob incorrect spelling!) 142? Not sure of contact details, very difficult to find I seem to remember!



Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 10:44am
Yet another on Ebay!  does anyone know what this is?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ex-1940s-Torpedo-Motor-Boat_W0QQitemZ270178191081QQihZ017QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - "Motor Torpedo Boat"

Cheers

Gareth


Posted By: rafwebfoot
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 7:17pm

Hi Folks,

MTB she's not, more probably a 60' Pinnace looking at the forward chine line and her transom.



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Posted By: a76njk
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 12:48am
For dgray,

I spoke to Harry Pounds yard back in the early summer looking for parts for 2751 and they were in the process of winding up the yard. They had a few lengths of rope etc. and very little else, but the developers were moving in soon after our chat. Another one bites the dust. All the best,

a76njk


Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:24am

If Harry Pounds is gone does that mean that HMS Stalker is doomed? Has anyone further information?Or am I thinking of the wrong yard?



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Posted By: andyht57
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 1:08pm
Hi Folks
Please excuse me but I'm new here although I have had an unhealthy interest in these beautiful boats for forty years. Re the Balloch Boat is that the one that was lying at Ardlui some twenty miles further North on Loch Lomond, that was owned by two "older Gentlemen" who spent weekends on her. She was lying at Ardlui four years ago, if no-one knows I'll take a run up.
Second question about twenty two years ago there was a MTB tied up in the Centre of Norwich and belonged to the Sea Scouts still had its foregun I seem to recall, anyone know what happened?


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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 2:42pm

Hello 'andyht57'

Welcome aboard!

To partly answer your second question - Fairmile "D" 740 was loaned to the Norwich Sea Scouts having been built in 1944. She was passed on to the Sea Scouts in 1946 and at one time did sport a gun on her foredeck - not too sure whether part of her original armament but very doubtful. Cannot give a firm date as to when she finally left Norwich. It is thought that no "D's" exist today (remains of LRRCO3O ex 683 can be seen nr Chatham old town)

Keep 'popping' back as I'm sure your first question will be answered



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Posted By: Jim
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 7:31pm

Originally posted by andyht57 andyht57 wrote:

Hi Folks
Please excuse me but I'm new here although I have had an unhealthy interest in these beautiful boats for forty years. Re the Balloch Boat is that the one that was lying at Ardlui some twenty miles further North on Loch Lomond, that was owned by two "older Gentlemen" who spent weekends on her. She was lying at Ardlui four years ago, if no-one knows I'll take a run up.
Second question about twenty two years ago there was a MTB tied up in the Centre of Norwich and belonged to the Sea Scouts still had its foregun I seem to recall, anyone know what happened?

Hi Andy

I think the Balloch Boat has been in the Marina for more than four years She was in the Clyde moored in Dumbarton before that....could this be another boat?



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Posted By: Magic Fingers
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:17pm

The Fairmile of Norwich Sea Cadets about 22 years ago (probably before that) was "B" 196. She was towed to Breydon Marine where she was broken up. Replaced at Norwich by a lightship which has also gone, in turn replaced by a Swedish patrol boat.

Richard.



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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 9:07pm

Hello Richard

Your right of course ML196 (later 2196) became the Norwich Sea Cadet boat in 1958 and named Lord Nelson (as was the the "D") this had obviously been returned to the Admiralty for disposal.



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Posted By: andyht57
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 9:08pm
Jim
Thanks for that I'll take a run up and check Ardlui, see if she's still there. By the way I was offered a MGB/MTB up in Buckie about eight years ago, she had been replanked and the engines rebuilt, the asking price was £750 but I'm afraid he had a breakdown and cut her up with a chainsaw and scrapped the engines. I was told that she had a certificate stating she was a Dunkirk Little Ship. Can't let you know any more I'm afraid.
Any sightings in the Central Belt of Scotland I'm more than happy to check them out.
Andy

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Posted By: Jim
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 9:37pm

Same here Andy...

I stay in Balloch.

Have you seen Osprey she is in Rothesy Dock in Clydebank just now....She's a RRTL still looks good...but getting a bit rough now..pity

The Balloch boat is in Balloch Marina....just off the Old (was rebuilt) Bridge..at the back of the yard.

There is a Sunken Nasty class in Campbelltown still waiting to find out more......might be one of the Troon boats that were there for years....

There are stories of a boats on the West Coast that was used by a Dentist to service the Islands for years....but the trail has went cold

There are the Remains of a ST in Dunoon behind Cot House Hotel at Sandbank

At the trees..it was bulldozed there few years ago, just the stern left

Been told of a hull up the East Coast in boat yard up from Dundee

And a New one in Dumbarton think its a ST down at the Old Hiram Walker plant off the High St  tied to a barge off the wee boat yard behind Morrisons(See Pics on my post on "where these boats are now")

still waiting for feedback on that one!

 

Regards

Jim.



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Posted By: rafwebfoot
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 6:49am

Hi Jim,

you are correct OSPREY in an ex RTTL, RAF No.2770 built by Saunders Roe Anglesey in 1960, transferred to the RN 1968 and used as an attack trainer for the Clyde based subs. When sold she became CANADIAN OSPREY as her owner had joint Canadian and UK passports.  Her name changed to OSPREY when her current owner bought her. I do have her full history on file for anyone interested.  The Balloch boat could be DANNY BOY an ex 41.5ft ST.  The Nasty at Campbletown was one of the ex Troon boats and owned by Ian Fraser, who previously owned the ELF, a 60' ex RAF Pinnace which no lies at the bottom of a loch and is used for diver training. The boat used by the Dentist was CONSTANCE an ex RAF 60' Pinnace converted to a floating dentist surgery.  It used to tour the West coast islands and was based at Bowling.  The dentists son still practices in Glasgow - I ahve some history on her.  The hull in the boatyard north of Dundee is/was back in 2002, an ex 41.5 ST called SEA MONARCH and only a bare undecked hull remains in the boatyard at Peterhead.



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Posted By: Pathfinder
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:22am

Good day all,

Whilst you are all out there looking, could I ask that you keep an eye out for any old yards or boat businesses which may have older Perkins P6 or S6 parts please...even complete engines which could be stripped etc, will help with Ark Royal and Humber, as well as any other project we might know about..

Self Change Coventry 1:1 gearboxes of the MR10A or MR10B would be of interest as well.

 

Many thanks your help.



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