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Topic: MGB 81
Posted By: Christian
Subject: MGB 81
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 6:23pm

A must-see sight (site?) for sore eyes;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbAvATE5h0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbAvATE5h0




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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 6:51pm

Thank you Christian

Some good shots - hope the docu is accurate - not too sure of the title - Machine Gun Boat 81



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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 27 November 2007 at 10:22pm

WOW!!  I finally see 81 in action! 

What a sight..you can definitely forgive the dodgy commentary!

So we can look forward to "Massive Speed" soon! 81 would look good with "guns" though.

 



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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 28 November 2007 at 11:18pm

Well, never been a big Youtube person but that was quite good, I agree a bit ropey with the facts! as you say lets hope they correct this by the time the show is aired! Good to see 81 on the move as well as 206, quite a site.

 

Johnk



Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:49pm
The series 'Massive speed' has started I am watching about dog fights, this means I will probably miss the one  with MGB 81 ! (I don't know when it is)

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Posted By: Jim
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:39pm

Great Vid, fantastic to see the 81 in the flesh and on the move....



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Posted By: hslmouldings
Date Posted: 25 January 2008 at 4:17pm

Guys!

Can I say, its even more impressive if your on her!

I arrange a trip for a few friends and myself back in 2003 with Phil on MGB81. Can I tell you, she goes man!!!

regards

Chris


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Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 08 February 2010 at 5:25pm
For all those former trust members who have followed the restoration of MGB81 with interest, there will be a news item on BBC Breakfast tomorrow morning (tues 9th feb) starting at 6.50am, again at 7.50am and 8.50am and throughout the day. There will also be a related item in The Times.

I spent 15 years preserving this little part of our maritime heritage, and am delighted that the efforts of my father, myself, my team of restorers and volunteers has now received national recognition.

Phil Clabburn



Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 08 February 2010 at 5:38pm
I shall be watching this with interest Phil - I take my hat off to you, your family and helpers - well done.

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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:14am
Great to see the boats on BBC this morning!

The report seemed quite accurate, not too sensational and great footage of them at sea.

Does anyone know if the public will be able to go out on them?

Cant see the rest of the report, already late for work!!



Mark


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 3:33pm

Hi there,

 

Ah, pity I missed this, will have a look out for the Times piece, but well done on the publicity front, see the pieces in the PNBPT monthly newsletter, seems they have a bit of a trek from thier base to the boats, but perhaps that might change in time, says the are looking at training to operate the vessels, always a good idea, lets hope to see them out and about soon.

 

Johnk



Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 3:37pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8505497.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8505497.stm


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 3:54pm
Hi Christian.
 
Beaten me to it so to speak, just found the item on the BBC site! agree very good, great shots,
 
Johnk


Posted By: The wood Wizard
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 7:33pm
Nice to see footage of HSL102 and MGB81 on the water but oh such a pity that the facts are so incorrect, "both boats at Dunkirk" not so one in for repairs and crew on leave the other not even built. 40 knots, not likely either but then journalists always exagerate. A lot of people like the ADLS go to a lot of trouble to get facts right so why are they ignored they are the authority on the subject. Stretching the facts can only do harm in the long run so lets tell it as it should be.

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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:12pm
Fantastic to see these old girls at speed.
Well done to all involved, not just in the restoration but in keeping them in this country AND available to the public      Thumbs%20Up    Clap   Clap   Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 8:48pm
Yes, agree with both! pity as you say that simple thing like the facts could not be done properly, no need to exagerate the story.
 
Johnk


Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 9:41pm
I'm glad you are such an expert on the subject, but perhaps you are not aware that it was the ADLS who claimed HSL 102 to be at Dunkirk in the first place! Since their archivist John Knight died, they chose to retract this statement. I am still waiting for them to tell me where else the boat may have been at the time. I have to say, that either way it doesn't really matter and the ADLS ought to be pleased for the publicity.

Regarding their performance, MGB 81 weighs in at 34tonnes and is powered by 3x1000hp MAN diesels. On commissioning trials in 2002, she clocked 44knots.

HSL 102 weighing in at 16tonnes and is powered by 3x400hp clocked 38knots on sea trials in 1996.

Admittedly, over time their performance may have reduced slightly but still averaging 40knots between them.

Please let me know if you require any more 'factual' information, as I am the man who restored them.
Phil Clabburn


Posted By: Magic Fingers
Date Posted: 09 February 2010 at 10:04pm
Get your head out of the sand Phil. The evidence is all there in RAF and Navy records.
 
 


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Posted By: Magic Fingers
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 1:38pm
For information of all interested copied from John Tough, Commodore and Archivist ADLS.
As the Archivist of the ADLS, my role is to confirm if a vessel took part in the evacuation. We use nineteen different sources of reference to confirm the provenance of the Little Ships, but more information is coming to light. This was the case with HSL102. Her only provenance was the fact she was listed in a book called "The Sands of Dunkirk" that was published in 1961. This was an error, as we have subsequently been able to establish that it was in fact HSL120 that went to Dunkirk. Our previous archivist was contacted in 1995 by a historian carrying out research into RAF Air Sea Rescue. He was able to show that HSL102 was in the middle of a refit at the time of Dunkirk and so could not have taken part. He also confirmed that four members of the crew of HSL102, who were on leave, attempted to reach Dover to take part in the evacuation; but were stopped and returned to their base. This was apparently reported to the press, further evidence that the vessel did not take part. Following this information, the Association contacted the previous owner to stop their membership.
HSL102 is a historic vessel in her own right, having saved numerous ditched pilots from the sea. We fully applaud the work that has been undertaken on the vessel and recognise her significance as a historic World War 2 vessel. However HSL102 did not take part in the evacuation of Dunkirk as the evidence has confirmed. 
 
To add to this, the RAF Air Sea Resue Association knows that HSL102 was not at Dunkirk and does not claim that it was. HSL120 was sent there from Calshot at the end of the evacuation. Several Seaplane tenders were there early on, did heroic work and were lost along with some of their crews.


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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 2:00pm
Originally posted by The wood Wizard The wood Wizard wrote:

Nice to see footage of HSL102 and MGB81 on the water but oh such a pity that the facts are so incorrect, "both boats at Dunkirk" not so one in for repairs and crew on leave the other not even built. 40 knots, not likely either but then journalists always exagerate. A lot of people like the ADLS go to a lot of trouble to get facts right so why are they ignored they are the authority on the subject. Stretching the facts can only do harm in the long run so lets tell it as it should be.
 
But they never said both boats were at Dunkirk. I watched it twice again to be sure.
 


Posted By: The wood Wizard
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 4:12pm
Quote from the BBC page from which you watch the news item.

The boats, which were involved in the evacuation from Dunkirk and the D-Day landings, among other missions, have been painstakingly restored with a grant from the National Heritage fund.
Ok that may have been a bit vague  but does hint at them both being at both places, but in today's Telegraph page 5 it states,
MGB81 was at the D-Day landings HSL102 the only surviving example of the 100 class launch that was used to retrieve airman who had ditched.
At last a statement that is correct or is it?

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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 4:41pm
Er, no.
There is another 100 class survivor in NZ called Carroma she is ex "W1".
And another in South Africa called Isle of Capri III ex "Malmok".


Posted By: The wood Wizard
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 4:54pm
so, how many more mistakes are there in the history?

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 6:38pm
Oh might as well dive in, not sure they got grant funding during restoration, sure Phil could say, National Heritag Memorial Fund and PRISM fund I read were used to BUY the craft,
 
Johnk


Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by Christian Christian wrote:

Originally posted by The wood Wizard The wood Wizard wrote:

Nice to see footage of HSL102 and MGB81 on the water but oh such a pity that the facts are so incorrect, "both boats at Dunkirk" not so one in for repairs and crew on leave the other not even built. 40 knots, not likely either but then journalists always exagerate. A lot of people like the ADLS go to a lot of trouble to get facts right so why are they ignored they are the authority on the subject. Stretching the facts can only do harm in the long run so lets tell it as it should be.
 
But they never said both boats were at Dunkirk. I watched it twice again to be sure.
 


I think I'm correct in thinking they said they were at D Day! no Dunkirk


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Posted By: The wood Wizard
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 8:49pm
the quote below is from the text below the screen area that you are watching tohe footage on, I have cut and pasted for you.

The boats, which were involved in the evacuation from Dunkirk and the D-Day landings, among other missions, have been painstakingly restored with a grant from the National Heritage fund.

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Posted By: Magic Fingers
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 8:50pm
It seems to me that most of you only see or hear what you want to. Try listening again and read the blurb in the papers and on the BBC web site.

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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 10:10pm
Oh Lordy!  Does this thread really have to turn into a who said what on TV, bun fight!

Its TV, its never accurate! 

Surely its good news that the boats are staying in the UK and will be available to the public!

Mark


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Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!"


Posted By: The wood Wizard
Date Posted: 10 February 2010 at 10:34pm
now, who said they were leaving the country? last I heard they were possibly being broken up if no one bought them. again that was in the papers, Times I think

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 11 February 2010 at 9:12am
Yes, well that was I something I did read, could be burnt or sold abroad, possbily Germany! but any way, they are now here and done and dusted, hope that with the new location in Portsmouth they can get a good run out with people, albeit I know takes fuel and to organize, perhaps even further afield.
 
Johnk


Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 11 February 2010 at 10:16am
I think the TV report mentioned possiblity of going abroad but as John says its all done and dusted!

I think the UK must now have the best collection of working/preserved WW2 fast boats in the World and thanks to enthusiastic groups and the skills of companies like Newsons and The Wheatcroft Collection their numbers may actually grow!

Mark



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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 11 February 2010 at 12:46pm
Hi Mark,
 
Yes, by the work of the people you mentioned, we certainly do have a great collection now, I know been mentioned before so nothing new, but a rally of some kind, guess? south coast, with Medusa and the 81/ HSL102 there, or a say the marina in the former naval dockyard at Chatham! better for say MTB 102, or perhaps even better the Thames, big PR push,  yes takes "A N Other" to sort I know and of course issue of manning and fuel and berthing,  etc,  Medusa will need work up for a start, any way, early days,
 
Johnk


Posted By: The wood Wizard
Date Posted: 11 February 2010 at 2:01pm
yes, and there is always the East Coast where in Lowestoft there are MTB102, Spitfire, Humber,Zeta, White Lady, not everything is on the south coast.

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 11 February 2010 at 3:56pm

I quite agree, was just putting up a few thoughts, have no particular thing for the south coast by any means...... and as you rightly point out, no shortage of historic and interesting craft Lowestoft way, and of course the maritime festival which I have been along to a few times now, could almost do a whole show on these and the other vessels.

 
Johnk


Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 14 February 2010 at 5:19pm
when  boats such as these in such amazing condition are advertised in Yachtworld or Apolloduck there is going to be interest from abroad, there could have been the possibility that a foreign individual may have wanted an interesting boat to play with.
Dont assume the public is told about all the ins and outs of a private individuals boat sale.


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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 24 February 2010 at 10:13pm

Originally posted by The wood Wizard The wood Wizard wrote:

Nice to see footage of HSL102 and MGB81 on the water but oh such a pity that the facts are so incorrect, "both boats at Dunkirk" not so one in for repairs and crew on leave the other not even built. 40 knots, not likely either but then journalists always exagerate. A lot of people like the ADLS go to a lot of trouble to get facts right so why are they ignored they are the authority on the subject. Stretching the facts can only do harm in the long run so lets tell it as it should be.


As a rounded figure for this happens to be a good enough as reasonable average figure. One slightly high and one slightly low, but which is which?

Have you run the numbers on the boats performance? Generally it pays to be careful about performance claims and what they are based upon. It would be good to compare them for their original and current configuration, at full rated load as well as their light condition.

As you will know with your experience with similar boats, there can be much 'smoke and mirrors' and it pays to get down to the bare facts and validated trials data in a trials condition and the location, water depth, tide, direction of runs, averaging method and engine data. Not all boats live up to their original builders hype and their owner’s expectations, even nowadays.



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Posted By: John Cook
Date Posted: 15 April 2010 at 5:14pm
Some years ago I joined GB81 as crew. At dawn on a Tuesday in April, we slipped the mooring at Buckler's Hard on the Beaulieu River and 'paddled' down the river to the Solent, in thirty minutes we burst out from the river mouth and roared toward the Needles Lighthouse, as we passed the beacon I set my stopwatch and we headed out into the
English Channel.  79 nautical miles later we entered the harbour  at Alderney in the Channel Isles, my watch showed a lapsed time of 2hrs and 6minutes.
On the return trip some days later with some wind at the harbour mouth a wave came over the deck and drenched me from head to toe, nevertheless my watch survived and timed the ship leaving the harbour and passing the Needles in two hours and one minute.
Portsmouth now has this magnificient vessel and I pray that hundreds of our young men and women will have their chance to experience at least a small part of that described above.   John Cook


Posted By: John Cook
Date Posted: 10 September 2010 at 10:56pm
Gunboat 81 Opens the Southampton Boat Show 2010
The Portsmouth Trust and new owners of the vessel displayed her replete with pretend sailors in fancy dress.  VIPS and TV Stars were there by the boat load, there were speeches and cheerleaders, everyone who couldnt possibly have any connection with this Treasure of World War Two were there with the handful of veterens who did....but the restorers, the Clabburn Family were not invited, their name was not mentioned, their prescious restoration ignored. Whatever happened to the Handing Over Party we and they were all promised? In a way I am glad the Family were not there; they would have been ashamed.
John Cook
 


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 11:22am
Hi there,
 
Just logged onto What's New section and see the piece on HSL 102 and MGB 81, noted fantastic news of new engines for HSL 102 and years of on-going service, but....note the intention of laying up 81 ashore post 2014.....OK better than nothing but slightly dissapointing, of course appreciate running such craft is not easy, I know 81 drinks fuel at one level but still.....I guess this is the main factor, up keep and maintance,  I don't know of course the full facts, any way, I wanted to comment,
 
Johnk


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 4:37pm
Two recent images (March 2012) of MGB 81 now sporting her main armament.
 


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Posted By: hslmouldings
Date Posted: 17 March 2012 at 4:44pm
Now that looks sweet! 
Would love to have been around during the day!!!!! to see all those boats!!!

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 18 March 2012 at 3:23pm
Hi there,
 
Many thanks for the pictures of the 81 with her armament, it dose show what she really is of course, a gun boat! same with MTB 102, told that until the torpedo tubes were fitted, she to most people, was just a grey boat....., presume by the look of it ,it is a replica  which I presume must be to save weight, and maintanance, although ex HMS Gay Archer has a real Oerlikon I believe. Any way, be great to see her out and about, before he final lay up in 2014.
 
Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 18 March 2012 at 3:29pm
Hi Again,
 
Been onto the http://cfv.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=316 - RN-CFV tab and see the shots of the new gun coming from the apprentices, so answers my question above! hopefully an interesting and different project for them to do, many thanks,
 
Johnk


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 March 2012 at 12:06pm
Hello there,
 
Great post and pictures of MGB81 under What's New on the home page herewith, my she certainly was a gun boat! OK perhaps some might say a bit boys own, but as above, that is what she was and believe it needs to be shown, draw peoples initial interest perhaps, then a chance to talk about her history and the what the company did and achieved with her....many thanks,
 
Johnk


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 29 April 2012 at 2:58pm

MGB 81 being lifted for Hull re-paint and other maintenance.

 



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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 29 April 2012 at 3:03pm

Another shot of her being moved

 


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 8:27am
Hi there,
 
 
Ah, just been on the http://cfv.org.uk/ - RN-CFV site first and seen these great pictures, wet to say the least, but great to see, still sad to hear they plan to dislpay her on shore post 2014 but then I don't have to run her and pay for it..... hope to see her underway at some point, many thanks,
 
Johnk


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Posted By: ForumManager
Date Posted: 03 May 2012 at 2:24pm

Looking splendid with her new Hull paint job, MGB 81 awaits her Hull pennant numbers.

(May 2012)
 


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 3:45pm
Hi there,
 
Just read the very unfortunate news re the wood work round the p brackets, £70,000 to fix!, of course far from easy I know that much, well, can only hope perhaps a better price can be found and the monies to do it, as mentioned, she can not run, sure hope to be fixed for the d-day anniversary year, which reported will be her last afloat, many thanks,
 
Regards
 
John


Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 9:56pm
well someone is either on the make, having a laugh or got the decimal point in the wrong place! what a load of piffle !


Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 25 May 2012 at 10:23pm
Well said.  After all, this is our heritage for our children and their children.

After the problems with the engines, people may wonder how the heck these people get to be put in charge of these projects.

I don't want to be unfair but all the news on the boats recently seems a bit doom & gloom.  In the interests  of balance,  what successes have they had?

Maybe they should consider giving  some/all   of the boats to a trust that will keep them in the water   (Garth/MTB102 perhaps)?

Just my half'pence  worth...

Don








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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 26 May 2012 at 3:25am
John
Where did you read that figure?
It would be interesting to hear what the scope was.
For the simple work described, I am with Phil, that quote is twaddle.
Either there is  huge work scope or someone does not know what they arree daling with here, either the type of boat or the repair method required for this particular boat.
Andy


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 26 May 2012 at 7:44am
A brief breakdown of the repairs required can be read http://www.bmpt.org.uk/News/news.htm - Here

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 8:53am
Hi there,
 
Yes,  many thanks to Pioneer, that is indeed where I read about the cost, yes that was what I was driving at, OK perhaps it is the much, I am not suggesting I know, but would always question in terms of boat repairs, age old thing, anything to do with marine repairs most certainly shop around if possible, appreciate this is not a standard vessel! but still.... thanks again,
 
Johnk


Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 8:55am
Its already out of the water so theres no cost there . Material cost is minimal so that leaves about 3500 man hours or two man years to fix it! Umm? sounds like another serious case of no knowledge of the subject , no change there then ! Two good blokes would wrap it up in under a week . 35k each ! nice work if you can get it .


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 4:37pm

Although I have no personal connection with MGB 81 or her owners (only through the Moderation of this Forum) I feel that everyone should be made aware of the complete details surrounding the work, upkeep and costs involved in this latest phase to MGB 81.

 

She is now back in the water after the Hull repaint (so the cost of another lift has to be added in the said calculations). There will obviously be the additional costs for the repair to the ‘P’ brackets and Hull – the removal and complete overhaul of the centre engine, not forgetting the cost of actually having her out of the water (ground rent?). The £70.000 figure is, I understand, to include the cost of running, maintaining and insuring her for the next three years, so the figure of £70.000 should be seen as a realistic target for any Appeal that may be launched.



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Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 5:22pm
previous comments state she may becoming ashore in a year or so as a static exhibit so why the appeal ? Does anyone know whats going on? looks like a case of one hand not knowing what the other is doing


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 6:08pm
Hi there,
 
Many thanks for the up date, yes OK if that figure includes the running costs etc....fair point re the news in What's New saying they want to lay her up post 2014 and D day comemerations,  said before, costs of running are high and fundraising not easy I know for sure, again said, millions can be poured into SOME historic ships, fraction of which would keep the likes of MGB 81 plus MTB 102, Medusa going for a while...
 
Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 10 June 2012 at 8:53am
Hi there,
 
Been bugging me this, if there is rot around brackets, presume? some sort of protection was done before re-launch otherewise, just putting rotting wood in the water to continue....
 
Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 22 December 2013 at 7:43am
Hi there,

Caught a piece on BBC news this morning showing MGB81 underway and talking about going to France next year with veterans, mentioned £100,000 to re-furbish engines, talk of BAE were going to do the work but with the closure of shipbuilding...., I would hope this could be sorted, with millions spent on Mary Rose, fine, but still...well, I would make albeit small contribution if asked, mentioned of course the engines are German, Manns?, perhaps....but maybe a bit to far to ask them for help!,

Johnk


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 22 December 2013 at 9:26am
I'm not too sure whether this will display outside the UK but this is the current link to the BBC clip.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25483778" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25483778

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 22 December 2013 at 10:12am
Hi Pioneer,

Very many thanks for this, I was looking on the BBC site to see if they would post there, and clearly they have.., great stuff, do hope as before, they can find the funds, possibly some sort of sponsorship deal, not suggesting a great banner across her, something a bit more subtle for sure, any how, thanks again,

Johnk


Posted By: burgundyben
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 7:53am
I find this situation somewhat frustrating.

MGB 81 has been owned for some years by the Portsmouth Naval Base Property Trust, I fully realise it tough to find funding but they don't help themselves, about 2 years ago a website went live to raise £70k for repairs, but there was no means to donate, as far as I can see that is still the case.

They find themselves caught in a vicious circle, without the boat working they won't get her into the public eye, which is the whole point and would help to raise funds.

What pains me is the opportunity in the Solent area to bring that boat to the public, starting yacht races, finishing motorboat races, attending boats shows,  taking dignitaries to wreath layings, escorting navy ships, its an endless list of opportunity lost.


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 24 December 2013 at 4:23pm
Hi there,
 
Yes....thought that to, an appeal started in 2012 but now....as you say, the Solent is about as busy as it gets, lots of high class stuff going on, not for a second knocking other parts of the country for sure, mine included but still...has to be said, with Portsmouth, to be frank, if people think boating and the navy....., as per before, plans to lay up in a museum post 2014,  as you acknowledge, if it was easy to run ...but to lose chance for 2014 at least. I am PART of a team with the Medway Queen paddler, we took a long time but got the first phase at least....we can only hope still time to sort and the coverage will help  get it done but....
 
Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 26 December 2013 at 8:05am
Hi there,

Well, the piece on the BBC news is till there under "most watched" so a lot of interest in the piece....as we say, hope it leads to support for D-day 2014,

Johnk


Posted By: burgundyben
Date Posted: 29 December 2013 at 9:14pm
I'm a keen follower of the Medway Queen, checked the webcam in Bristol everyday and she has been a triumph for maritime preservation.
 
This country's people are keen and interested in maritime preservation, but its only worth doing if we can make the artefacts accessible to those people.
 
I tried to get PNBPT to bring HSL102 to a powerboat rally I run in the Solent, its the only classic motorboat event in the Solent each year, we offered to pay fuel and provide a qualified skipped, but we couldn't get them to work with us.
 
In a general sense as a nation we do an excellent job of bringing maritime heritage to the public, I just feel that it could be improved for the WWII fleet in Portsmouth.


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 30 December 2013 at 7:51am
Hi there,

Many thanks, yes the cameras were well worthwhile, sorry to hear re HSL102 you could not have offered much more for them to come. Could not agree more as per above, all the best,

Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 24 February 2014 at 9:57am
Hi There,

Just seen latest from the http://cfv.org.uk/veterans/newsletter/london-branch-february-2014" rel="nofollow - CFV site and a proposed documentary re the Normandy landings, I presume nothing further heard re hope of getting MGB81 along....possible? funds ex commemoration/filming? time very very short I know, can only hope something can be pulled from the hat......yes I know, easy said, and not in my power...

Johnk


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 24 March 2014 at 9:47am
Hi there,

Just seen news that Heritage Lottery Fund have new fund for commemoration of WW2 and other events....very short now for this year and MGB81, possibly already being done I don't know....shame if not.....as per above, OK to comment not being there, but still.....

Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 26 March 2014 at 12:30pm
Hi there,

Sure thought of by powers that be but....a justgiving web appeal raised £2,000 for sailing barge Westmoreland recently, understand a lot more needed for MGB 81 return to D-day, needs a month to run, if you reach or exceed target, you take the money pledged, but if fall short, you get nothing, but just a thought, still time to run...

Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 07 May 2015 at 11:36am
Hi there,

Just wanted to say that Yesterday channel is doing a programme called Impossible Engineering, and trailer shows MGB81, presenter saying "these were the Spitfire of the seas" great to see her underway, will look out for the show, save posting twice, great entry on http://www.cfv.org.uk" rel="nofollow - RN/CF page, diary entry of MTB veteran, war ended, wrote to Mum, reminds not that we need it here, of the privilege we have today to be in democracy and the life we have today.

Johnk]

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:20pm
Hi there,

Just update on the above really, almost by chance tuned in 15 minuets into the above, and it was again by chance, episode on the new carriers and showed MGB 81 at see, bit of a pounding and at speed, hope the show paid well for the fuel plus! was to illustrate high speed engines, presenter talked about her having three petrol Packards, clearly not mentioning what she has now, but looked great, as I say bit rough. Then footage of MGB 2009 in 1947 demonstrating use of gas turbines which the carriers now use.

John K


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 03 June 2015 at 1:26pm
Hi there,

Spotted on the face book another piece in the Daily Mail the other day on MGB81, hope it might lead to more support to get her going again, as per posts re the painting by R J Mitchell, great to see her in sunny Ramsgate one perhaps...

Johnk


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 08 July 2015 at 8:56am
Another shot of MGB 81 at speed off the I.O.W.
Early morning on her way to France 4th June 2015. Now sporting a twin Oerlikon mount abaft the Bridge.

Photo: R. Hellyer

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 08 July 2015 at 4:18pm
Hi there,

Many thanks, sure all agree what a magnificent site, lovely day shows she still has it with the bows clean out of the water there! like the new mount, certainly looks the part, so glad to see her up and running, thanks again,

Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 January 2017 at 1:23pm
Hello there,

By the by but saw MGB 81 on the TV show Impossible Engineering last night, repeat of course, seen before but had forgotten she was going to be on the show, one on the new aircraft carriers...looking at the propulsion systems developed form her to the carriers, great footage of MTB 2009 which was run on a gas turbine! went like...but the fuel consumption, of course the new carriers are effectively electric driven.. heave seas for the filming and much spray onto the bridge, comment was "we are soaking"!

Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 01 February 2017 at 7:05pm
Hi there,

Just seen today great shots of MGB81 ashore for maintenance on Facebook ex Portsmouth Naval Base Property Trust, straight on almost, with new anti-fouling....good to see of course, best to the team looking after our coastal forces vessels.

Johnk



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