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Hi Don,

Holding thumbs etc for a good outcome..

 

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A question....

Other than MA/SB's of which there are a few, how many BPB Whalebacks are known to survive now...

HSL 2548 in Spain...
HSL 145 in West Mersea
Does anyone know of any others?

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Hi Don-Re 63ft Whalebacks:

There's more than two 63ft MASBs?Please tell me more..(27 Moonlight at Hamble Marina & 32 at Gibraltar plus?)

HSL2550 Buccaneer,location unknown but listed on nhsc frustratingly with no pic.HSL186 Robrina at Shoreham.

MGB45/S-3  Freelance which we've all seen for sale.

HSL165 Jalna broken last year at Shoreham.HSL142 sadly broken up at Marchwood 2004.Recently another at Ash Island,and another at Bowling Harbour.

(Plus a couple of 70ft MASBs survive at Shoreham,Pelican and Lanroc)

Shoreham info from Phil Simons' Retired On The River.

Any others anyone?

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Hi Christian,

I thought MGB45/S-3 was a MA/SB. I was counting her!

A bit premature before surveyor, but have these boats (been destroyed completely or might there be something left to salvage?

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Come on guys , let's be positive (and pray) , I'm only sorry my wife wants a bigger one for conversion , or I would still have this as my little project , so come on think positive .
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Bad news...very bad indeed.

Spoke to the surveyor. His report and photos will follow

Basically

12" mud in her so couldn't see keel so that is unknown
90% of  hull side timbers gone - weathered
Big sections of inner side gone where canvas shown through
Didn't think she would stand a lift
Chine timberrs seemed OK
He thought it required a complete rebuild and 90% new timber.

I'll post link to report and photos when I get them........

Disappointing really but not too surprising I suppose






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Wow-it couldn't be much worse.Come and buy MASB 32 and give her the home she deserves,the old man is feeling his age and will likely listen to your offer now.See you soon...

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Don,

At least you tried, for which many will be for ever gratefull..thank you.

Now Gib maybe..I will crew for you?

 

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Survreyors Report:

Dear Mr Gray,

HSL 145 is in a very poor state. I reckon that you are probably 5 years too late for any attempt to rescue this craft. The attached pictures are a selection of those I took but they will give you an idea of how things stand.
 

With all this mud around it was difficult to get at bottom or chine timbers – too much mud (at least 100 mm deep in the bilges), too slippy and nothing to hold onto. However, the timbers above the mud that I could get to were hard and did not easily take my spike, so I don’t think there’s too much in the way of rot. The metal stringer clamps (see photos) are sound too and all would be salvageable, I think.
 

Hull planking was shot with many holes apparent and with the oiled canvas interlayer exposed in a number of places where the inner layer has fallen away. So you would not be replacing just a few double diagonals – you would need to replace the lot.

Deck was pretty much the same – double diagonals covered in Cascover (a type of fibreglass sheathing). It would all need replacing, along with the superstructure hatches and coamings.

The bulkheads would need replacing, there’s no strength left in them.

Have a look at the photos and if you have any questions then please get back to me


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Photos at:

http://www.rania.co.uk/boat%20photos/ST/

Click on HSL145 link on the side.....

Quality not brilliant.


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