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    Posted: 12 January 2016 at 8:16pm
Hi Tim, sorry for the huge delay but I only found the site the day I posted the last message and didn't make a note of it. If you are still watching this site I tried your link but got nowhere (maybe it's out of date now)but thanks for the last info. and would still love to see any photos you may have of Sungo or the other vessels by Cobden Bridge. My email edk222@gmail.com . Many Thanks, here's hoping you get this message, kenna222
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Hi. I gather you are the owner of Houseboat 'Sungo' and are after any photos of her. I have 2 or 3 from about 1978 when she was moored in Priory Boat Yard, St. Denys, Southampton. I'm having problems uploading these photos, so if you would like to contact me direct, I can send them to you. My e-mail is: tim@deacon427.fsnet.co.uk
I'm sure you will know (?) that 'Sungo' was in the Canadian Navy in WW2 (MTB 486) and is mentioned many times in the book 'White Plumes Astern' by C. Antony Law, RCN and there is a rather misty photo of her in the book on P. 145. She is a rare survivor! I'm in touch with a previous owner from 1978 and she may have lots of photos. I understand that Sungo's hull was sheathed with nylon cloth and resorcinol glue (by Borden Chemicals), so she should be in fairly good shape.
 
I was talking to a previous owner of 'Mahaba' only today (29.7.13); sadly, he doesn't have any photos of her when he owned her in the late 70s/early 80s. As is well known, she was MTB 458 and there is a very brief movie shot of her at speed on the DVD, 'A History of The RN Coastal Forces' made by the Coastal Forces Heritage Trust recently. I also have a photo of her in service.
Please feel free to contact me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2013 at 8:07pm
Hi there,
 
Many thanks your last there, have nothing more personally but glad to here Sungo had a new owner and continues to be cared for, yes I see re Mahaba sad of course but only just broken up there....I was in Bristol yesterday for the Paddle Steamer Medway Queen, and during a harbour stroll previous evening, saw to my suprise the ex HMS Gay Archer in the harbour, spoke again with Owen and Paul and Simon Childs, their efforts there with our CF vessel on going, work to RASC Humourist latest.....see note on What's New page here Watchet Warships proposals,
 
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I'm the current owner of the MTB Sungo shown in the background. Sadly Mahaba was broken up by the council last year after being left to deteriorate beyond repair. If anyone has any more information about the history of Sungo or any other house boats moored here in the past ( particularly dated photos of the mooring & houseboats) I would be very grateful to receive them and learn more of her history, many thanks, kenna222.
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Hi!
 
Not sure how far you've have got with discovering the history of MTB 458 and only just seen this thread on the Forum, but I used to live on a houseboat ('Whimsical Macgoffley'/Polish MTB S-8) just down river from where 458/'Mahaba' was moored and can remember visiting the boat when a friend of mine owned her for a short while. (He now lives in Bicester and bought her to rent out back in the late 70s/80s....he was never really into the history of the boats and I used to 'oooh' and 'ahhh' about what a wonderful boat she must have been in the war.....as she still had her original wheelhouse as part of the superstucture).
As you realise she was negelected in the later years and eventually went the way of many houseboats (including mine!), and was broken up. I have several photos of her in different stages of delapidation and might have one of her in better days...I will have a look through my files.
Please contact me if you want to.
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Funny thing rikky, a while back mgb56 looked a better bet than some of the houseboats out there, and with those lines well worth the effort even with a tree growing out the transome, being looked after until the 80's by a boatyard owner gives her a real advantage over most houseboats and worth a gamble. If Clive still owned the basin she's in then sure could've worked out a deal but while they're not making land or ww2 boats anymore, land goes up in value wheras the boats...nuf said. Clives the man on the ground there and general heads up or pm welcome.
As for poor old 458...I would guess that if somebody really wants to take her on then soton council won't object and being outside salvage laws by the time she was fixed she would come under a care of property law. Of course if she could be floated out in a barge, break her towline and then be recovered by another tug she would be salvaged cargo & legally yours. May be easier to find owner & swap her for a bottle of whiskey but if you seriously want her mate then try & help. Would say take her anyway as nobody will care at moment(except in a good way) but as soon as money spent & they worth something again the cretins creep out of the woodwork
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rikky.c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 August 2011 at 8:17pm
I did some digging about 458 last year and they all drew blanks apart from being told to contact the local council who apparently own the moorings but got no responce from them?So good luck i hope you fare better.how did you get on with mgb56,did you get to see it?
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2552 duly noted and requests for imfo sent out!! Only playing on the severn and in the estuary i gotta ask if she could be towed through inland waterways to gloucester or worcester? Leeds liverpool canal is a long way to drive on a weekend and towing her home my way would be an adventure to say the least. Somebody get me details and we'll take it from there. Outlook still wont tell me my password but mastered mobile phones, other email and pm's on this site(I'm a joiner & builder not a pc nut). Those in the know pass on my details & no promises but we'll take it from there!
And i mean that as well. if 458 is done for then i'll use her wheelhouse for a restored stone carving shed in my garden, make a computer desk for myself and whatever useable timber will allow for bmpt. At the very worst, make coffee tables from her and sell splinters of genuine mtb to pay for another restoration. How nice would it be if a couple of doomed houseboat mtb's would pay for the restoration of a 70ft whaleback? I probably sound like a total w**ker to warboat buffs like me but trying to be reallistic and save the saveable and preserve a bit of the dead ducks. If johnk can arrange for me to pick up the coach house roof from the back of the chatham dogboat then i'll have the coolest desk ever and will make another for the admiralty just to ensure they live on in some form! Rather save them all but we don't have the luxury or the budget
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See boats for sale 2552.
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Just a quick one. Is 458 still there? Understand she is beyond repair but if she's destined for landfill then i'll happily take her wheelhouse and put it to good use. Same goes for her hull if she could be made into desks ect for people who really appreciate these boats rather than being lost forever and if a museum wants any bits or theres machinery onboard for a restoration of another then its harsh but its damage limitation. Be a shame to lose all trace of her when like a few admiralty desks of old, they're made from unsalvable warships. Of course if she's there and somebody takes here on as a project i'll help but huge budget needed
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