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FlyByWire
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Topic: 60 Admiralty Seagoing MotorboatPosted: 02 July 2007 at 4:32pm |
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You just can't move for WW2 boats in Falmouth at the moment :) This is moored about a hundred feet or so from Cano Nero... http://www.worldwartwoboats.com/ It *really* looks the part, too - fantastically well looked after and restored! Paul |
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marksaab
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Posted: 03 July 2007 at 9:16am |
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What a lovely boat! A fantastic achievement by a dedicated team! The restoration pics make good viewing and indicate the kind of work involved in getting Ambra back in the water!!
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Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!"
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Posted: 03 July 2007 at 10:12am |
A very nice bit of workmanship, any photos of her at Falmouth. I am sure I saw this boat when she was fishing at Falmouth when I was waiting to join a ship there.
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Posted: 03 July 2007 at 10:55am |
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It shows just holw good 1262 could look if she was restored in a similar way, great looking boats, they've done one of the best restorations out there!
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 12:36pm |
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Hi,
Indeed, Asco now resident at Falmouth and of course a superb job done on her restoration, really need to see her in the flesh, have corresponded with the owners for some time, and thier web-site is great, showing the work in progress. Fantastic when you see what she was converted to before and the work to put her back to origional condition, a real inspiration to all trying to save and restore and indeed run our marine heritage.
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tramontana
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 12:50pm |
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Asco is proof if proof is needed of a restoration with no half measures as lives could be at stake, has the owner reckoned up how much it has cost him yet with/without labour charges? The only way the Irvine pinnace could be restored is to have somebody with very,very deep pocket's, there comes a time in a boat's life when they are just to far gone and this pinnace is well past that stage and has been for some time. As previously stated the Scottish Museum should be ashamed of themselves
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 1:16pm |
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It depends on what your eventual aim for the vessel is. Look at the Carrick ex City of Adelaide. Also at Irving. She will never go back to sea without loosing her historical integrity. However she can be restored for display just like the Cutty Sark. However the Cutty Sark was a national treasure because of her historical content. Due to her fire she will now be rebuild and I bet she will be almost capable of being sent back to sea, E.G no historical fabric left. What I’m trying to say is the Carrick wont be displayed like the Cutty due to lack of interest (though she is in many ways much more important) and the fact that she can’t be used in an active fashion without losing her historical fabric. Now that argument has been sidestepped by the Cutty Sark yet the Carrick will end up cut up into sections and spread around the world. An historically accurate ship wont be saved but a bloody copy will end up sitting in dry dock!!! My personal view is that the national and historical attitude to saving ships/vessels need to be changed if our grandkids are to see any of these vessels. Even copies. The Cutty Sark is a prime example of what should take place. Preserve as much as possible until its unpractical and then replace and restore, even if you end up with a copy. Don’t be too fascinated by the thought of keeping ships sea worthy, Christ how many people will have seen the Cutty Sark over the years if she’d been at sea? Perversely enough in the years to come we may just see the Cutty Sark spread her canvas and got for a sale. As for the 1262, well yes if she ever goes to sea she will end up a replica, not such a bad thing. Here’s a strange thought, the remains of the 1262 last in various ownership for the next 20 years, all the other pinnaces are long gone, who’s the idiot then? Having said that id happily take the Asco in trade J |
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 3:35pm |
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Oh dear me! If northeaster is who I think he is, has he not now given up on 1262. Knowing her as I do, she was past redemption some years back after being dumped on the quayside at Irvine after sinking in the harbour (whilst under the Museums care). Restoration, conservation, saving for posterity, call it what you like, is an expensive operation, in both monetary terms, labour, and availability of materials. In addition, unless one is just after a 'boat' accurate information has to be found with which to do the job properly. This too costs money, and one should expect to pay for this, because whoever owns it has more than likely paid for it themselves in the first place. I commend everyone out there who are the new custodians of these old military craft. Theirs is a labour of love and long may we have like minded folk willing to take on such a challenge. |
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 5:01pm |
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Yes that reminds me, I owe you 30 pounds to cover the copying costs of the information and plans that you so kindly gave me regarding the RAF Pinnace 1262. Head somewhere else sorry. (No excuse I know.) I will attend to it tomorrow. As for giving up on the 1262. Well not just yet. I’m just patching up my cargo boat (MTB 506) in Malta to bring the timber back. Don’t get me wrong, if she is in the way I will arrange for her to be broken, however while the museum is willing to wait for me then she still has a chance. Your more than welcome to put money down on the outcome. |
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Posted: 04 July 2007 at 7:57pm |
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Totally agree with rafwebfoot re labour of love, I recon it should be 'obsession' as you have to be slightly mad to have one (a boat) I have a boat which is floating (I hope) and moves backwards and forewards on her own, It is very sobering watching the rate of knots at which the cash is leaving my bank account without having any work done. I know owning a boat is never a good investment but forcasting the cost of my plans makes me question my sanity. The best way to own a boat is to be given one and leave it on a free mooring (or hard) and do nothing to it, that way you'll never be out of pocket. unfortunately most 'free' things do cost someone money, and when the goodwill wears thin the boat becomes a liability and you normally end up loosing credibility. MASB '32 should be leaving Gib in the next week or two, It will be nice to see where all my money will be going!! |
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masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/
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