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dgray
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Topic: Keep Red Diesel, Online PetitionPosted: 19 January 2007 at 12:23pm |
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There is a Government (Beta) e-Petition system in place where petitions to the Prime Minister can be created and signed online.
There is one online that begs for keeping the subsidy on red diesel for pleasure craft ( among some other belters). Please sign up if you are interested at: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/list/open?cat=692 Cheers |
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Don
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 2:40pm |
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Brilliant idea, as I have an interest in Biodiesel too I signed that petition too, I'm of the opinion that tax should be removed from biodiesel, afterall it's pretty close to renewable, whereas lpg which still comes from the ground and is adding to global warming has 20p less tax p/l ! Everyone should be signing thye red diesel petition though, without tax advantages for red diesel these boats will become even more expensive to run! |
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 4:29pm |
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Bio diesel is a rip off!!Just use veg oil and inform vat man and pay the duty due.Its cheaper than bio! Well so iv been told
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 4:52pm |
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Cost of making biodiesel, assuming 20p per l for the used cooking oil is around 30p per litre, it's a direct substitute for petro-diesel, veg oil on it's own is too viscous to use and also gradually forms deposits on the injectors, tax on veg oil is the same as on biodiesel, they should both be abolished completley in my opinion! To sum it up veg oil isn't as good for the engine as veg oil and in winter is even worse since it needs pre heating to allow it to flow better, pros and cons to both, plenty of info on the net, which I'd definitley recomend reading, very interesting, if it has 0 tax on then all boat users would be happy cos they'd use it and environmentalist's would be happy since a good chunk of diesel used would be biodiesel, seems win win (oh other than the government, but still, if they're seen as green perhaps tax could be collected somehwere else?)
Sorry.....um.....WW2 boats, yes...not really relevant but perhaps how to fuel them is a consideration, considering red diesel could no longer be an option, looking at Christian's fuel consumption figures for some and HDML or MASB 32, around 25l per hour would be about right, 85p per litre means it'd cost £20 per hour in fuel alone to run these boats, biodiesel, at 60p per litre, including tax, even now begins to look alright, but maybe whilst red diesel is still available at around 1/2 of our 85p per l! Who knows! Edited by rozm2 |
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dgray
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:15pm |
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It's very likely that old WW2 boats would be exempt from the levy as they are/were not pleasure craft and so should not come under the directive. I'm sure Medusa and MTB102 would not be affected.
If this isn't the case or it doesn't apply to your boat because of it's use, the issue of how to fuel them is as relevant to WW2 boats as it is to ..um...any boat. |
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:23pm |
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Have to admit iv been running veg oil in my transit for about a year now. No problems what so ever. I even have one of the older diesel engine that has no glow plugs. Though I do run on diesel every now and then when I can’t be bothered to sort out the Veg oil. My van runs a dam sight better (quieter and more power) on veg oil than it does on diesel. I seam to remember that veg oil burns better than diesel and so drops less soot in your engine. I just drive along making everyone hungry as I smell like a chip shop! Hartlepool to london and back for 30 quid..600 miles!!( that has to good for the enviroment)The commercial bio has chemical additives to stop it smelling. But yes iv signed the petition as well. |
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 7:33pm |
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I think I must have followed northeast user on his trip to London. Never did find the chip shop!!!
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Posted: 12 February 2007 at 12:22am |
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There is one way if you dont mind a bit of travelling. Most russian army truck engines are designed to run on petrol diesel mix but run on practically anything. Wrong fill ups happen all the time (including petrol station tanks Theyre also pretty reliable as saddam buried his scud launchers in the desert & they still ran when needed, try doing that with a rolls royce eagle Just one of many strange ideas that find their way to my inbox but this one may have a point as a guy in cambridge runs a gaz truck for free. Not tried it but going to look into. After all, cooking oil was laughed at until some bearded scientist admitted he'd been running a volvo diesel on it for two years. Of course if i'm wrong i prefer my hat medium rare |
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 9:41am |
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Up to last year I had been running my car on a bio diesel product manufactured by "Bio-Power UK". This was made from used cooking oil, but not in the usual way, no catalysts or nasty chemicals are used, really just cleaning, settling and adding a small amount of "something" to it to lower the viscosity. The car ran fine on this fuel though he did recommend using part petro diesel if the engine had no fuel heater. I was quite happy with this and felt that I was doing a little towards the global warming problem and also using up a waste product, and, the necessary tax was paid, though I agree with Mark that the tax on it should be removed. I gather that other countries, I think Germany for instance, allow the use of cooking oil as car fuel without any tax, why can't we? I stopped using the fuel when my supplier had health and then workshop problems. He's still not sorted things out yet, but I'll be back using his fuel when he does. Oh yes, I've signed the petition!
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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 10:53am |
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Hi all, I got this this the other day thought I would pass it on Wednesday 21st March 2007
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masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/
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