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    Posted: 05 June 2007 at 3:55pm
From 25th Nov 42 until 19th Aug 43 my father was on this boat. first at Hornet then Beehive and lastly at Dartmouth II. His name was Idris ALEC Davies. Any information of the actions fought by this boat or photos would be greatly appreciated. I am at present building a modle of the MGB and have come across many different armament configurations for these boats.
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Hello 'pondskater'

Welcome aboard.

MGB 112 has been a difficult boat to trace - it was a BPBco Mk 5 build and had been renumbered from the 74- 81 series (not sure which one (but not 81 I would suggest)

She formed part of the 8th MGB Flotilla, based as you say at Hornet - Felixstowe and Dartmouth - the 8th Flotilla Senior Officers were Lt Cdr  R Hichens - Lt T Mathias  -and Lt F Stephenson RN. 

The DSM was awarded to AB L D Conroy while on board MGB 112 as was a Bar to DSC to Lt D C Sidebottom. I shall try and trace some other info - meanwhile is there anything you can 'Post' here (pictures etc?)

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Hello pioneer

Thanks for the quick response, I am hopefully having a photo identified as 112. If confirmed it will be fowarded, posted or whatever, if not, I shall not have a glorious end but run aground and slowly sink into oblivion. I do have other options for other occasions.

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74-81 built 1942 by British Power Boat, first boats designed as M.G.B.'s rather than conversion's from M.A.S.B.'s, 3 Packards, converted to M.T.B.'s in 1943.  76&78 lost in 1942, 79 lost in 1943.

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Sorry, forgot about guns. as built they carried power operated,  1@ 2pounder for'ad, twin 20mm aft,plus 2x2 .303 MG's.
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Hi Pioneer,

From Fast Boats and Flying boats BPB Co build lists;

Surviving MGBs from the 74-81 group became MTBs 412-416, and MGBs from the 110-122 group became MTBs 430-441.  



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Many thanks Christian - confusion still reigns regarding the numbering of some boats it seems and depend upon which 'research' you read - mine was from "Home Waters MTB'S & MGB's at War" the 'renumbering' was at the instigation of Lt Cdr Hitchens I understand?
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Hi Pioneer, perhaps you are on p197, where it states that the 8th MGB flotilla was made up of MGBs 74-81, later 111,112,115. What LC Reynolds is trying to say is that newly built MGBs 111,112,115 joined older boats 74-81, as evidenced on p91;

"Hichens was embarked on MGB 112, a newly commissioned boat commanded by Lt DC Sidebottom....They fought two enemy vessels which had clearly not sighted the four gunboats. Approaching from the port quarter, they sped along parallel to the enemy and hit them both very hard. As they drew ahead the enemy fire increased but was generally inaccurate. Suddenly, however, a single burst of cannon shell struck the bridge of 112, with terrible results. Hichens was killed immediately-the only fatal casuualty-and both the CO and the first lieutenant were wounded." This action is retold in more detail on p134-135 of Coastal Forces At War by D Jefferson. The other 3 boats were MGBs 74,75 and 111. 

A picture of a close sister vessel from Lt Cdr Ben Warlow's book to help with the model;

 



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Ah -The confusion is of my own making

Many thanks again Christian - (must be age related)

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As Christian has said the re-designation of some craft is a bit confusing and these groups of boat are a a good example, they were the first group of B.P.B. boats built as M.G.B.'s and within a year had two 18" torpedo tubes fitted and re-designated M.T.B.'s with a different number, that seems straightforward however, some boats were redesignated as M.T.B.'s and re-numbered but never had the torpedo tubes fitted, but a superb looking boat on full trot you must agree.
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