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    Posted: 12 September 2011 at 11:01am

Sometimes one find particular gems of websites on the internet, often concerning British collector groups. Who are better to take care of their traditions than the British? I do not know! This website seems to be such a gem.

As a new member I ask permission to come aboard and hope to be able to contribute as well as to make use of the resources here. My interests can be found on my profile. I have for some time been on the lookout for a former naval vessel - a Little Ship! I am presently located in Sweden and there are quite a few of them around here, too. But, as you all well know, to find the precious balance between purchasing price and the expenses to uphold such a vessel is critical. Last year I almost acquired a lovely  vessel, a former Swedish minesweeper. It didn't come off and today I regret it very much. I have attached a picture. It illustrates generally what I am still looking for.
 
While I have recently written a book on Operation Sea Lion (you heard about that...:-)...I am not here to peddle my book but rather to seek further information on the period as I see a need for an even more detailed redux than my first edition. I have already found some useful information here - on MTB 71 and the S-boats.
 
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Hello Fred
Welcome aboard, nice as always to welcome a genuine member. I can see why you are now a little annoyed by not purchasing the Minesweeper - what a lovely craft.
Enjoy the site Fred, I'm sure that you will 'meet' like minded shipmates
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Hi there,

 
Indeed, nice photo, welcome on board.
 
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Hi Fred. There's one of these hulls in Malta. Thought it was a fairmile B with an extra layer of planking running horizontal(many bodges went on in 50's ect), thought found WL2 but minesweeper sounds very plausible. Was this class based on the 'B' by any chance?
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Originally posted by jimmy p jimmy p wrote:

Hi Fred. There's one of these hulls in Malta. Thought it was a fairmile B with an extra layer of planking running horizontal(many bodges went on in 50's ect), thought found WL2 but minesweeper sounds very plausible. Was this class based on the 'B' by any chance?
 
Hi, Jimmy - these boats were genuine Swedish constructions, inshore minesweeper type, and not really made for speed even if it made 13 knots (with the sweep out, I believe) with its 2 x 250 hp., 40-litre diesels. The hull is very easily driven, obviously. They were constructed so as to be built by small, local wharfs to expedite delivery. 25 were launched in Sweden 1940-42. For AA defence they had a 20 mm gun on the aft deck.
 
I am pleased to tell you that I have now acquired the sister ship of the one in the picture above. As a matter of fact mine was the last one in the series launched (summer 1942). It was somewhat delayed due to lack of materials, the Honduras mahogany and the bottom copper plates being in short supply. Of those left I believe this is the only one with the original Kockum-Frich diesels and KaMeWa propeller drives.
 
It is not pretty to look at presently but it is afloat, is in an original state, and has all the technical stuff intact. I hope to have it up and sweeping in a couple of years. An original picture is attached.
 
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Just found a nice photo of these vessels while in service.
 
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