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Posted: 17 March 2007 at 9:37pm |
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As probably the last person to carry out any repairs to GG I can confirm that she was two layers of diagonal 1" mahogany copper nailed and roved through planking and fastened to frames.
To fit this requires total access to the interior and conversely to remove it, removing each rove, punching out each nail and then any other bolt or screw used to fasten to frames, stringers etc. In reality when repairing use new timber its better, its quicker and looks better.
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Posted: 18 March 2007 at 10:09pm |
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Hi All,
Posted under modelling but thought should do so here as modelling not evey ones thing, saw documentary on the St Nazaire raid on BBC 2, shots of Wester Lady, launch of a B, and of construction. First and foremost though I should really say, what an incredible story, the sacrifice of the men, all knowing that it was incredibly dangerous and the chances of surviving so small, born out by the casualties suffered. The memorial in Falmouth was so small, I know these guys who are still with us, never want a great fuss so to speak but... I hope perhaps something can be done in relation to the WL. I know it was the destroyer that did the ramming but the MLs took on such a role and the losses extraordinray. Any way, that's my piece, I think I speak for a lot of people in my admiration for these men's efforts and sacrifice, keeping Tirpitz away from the base must have saved so many lives, as was said on the programme, she never got to attack our shipping.
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Posted: 19 March 2007 at 12:06am |
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Missed the first half, what i saw was good. They definatly got the right presenter to draw an audience. about time the men & boats involved in that raid got due recognition for thier sacrifice. Hopefully a few more people know of thier extraordinary courage after watching that. Maybe people local to WL who didnt know what she was will take an interest in her future?? A Fully restored ML in original trim would make a fitting tribute. Hopefully a few people wiser to what the old guys selling poppies actually did back then |
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Posted: 19 March 2007 at 12:14pm |
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Must agree with all of what John has said - but I was more than a little disappointed that Lt 'Micky' Wynne and his special MTB 74 was not mentioned - to me that was a major illustration of the 'self sacrifice' that that generation made for us all. This brave man 'was away' and making it back out of the estuary when he spotted the two survivors of a sunken ML clinging to a raft of sorts - although 'overloaded' he slowed to stop to pick them up and little MTB 74 was blasted out of the water by a direct hit. Lt Wynne being blown unconcious into the water but saved by CMM Lovegrove. I will always remain in awe of the men in that raid. Edited by Pioneer |
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Posted: 19 March 2007 at 1:54pm |
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Saw the Documentry. The cold presentation of the facts as numbers, combind with the interviews with the survivors just confirms me in the belief that we must never, in this Politically correct world, allow people to be so comfortable that they can forget. I for one never will. I have added that memorial to my list of must visits. There is a plaque at the bottom of Trebah gardens in Cornwall that is well worth a visit. It simply state that a unit of the U.S. Cavalry left from that beach for the invasion on D Day. A simple plaque and like the Memorial in the documentry conveys so much.
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Posted: 19 March 2007 at 4:19pm |
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Hello, This TV program is repeated on Saturday 24th March on BBC 2 at 20.25 if you missed it. Regards Danny Edited by Danny |
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Posted: 19 March 2007 at 6:03pm |
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Hi Danny, Many thanks for the above will pass onto a friend, the with the Rhine RIver Patrol boat he would love to see it and a load of others as well as many others who missed it I am sure.
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Posted: 20 March 2007 at 8:05am |
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Just read my last, looks like I was not really with it!, my spelling is no good I know but I can usally put a sentence together, must be the machine!
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Posted: 25 March 2007 at 3:13pm |
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Follow up to original program : Mon 26 Mar, 7:30 pm - 8:00 pm “The Making of..the Greatest Raid of All Time. Jeremy Clarkson:... An exclusive behind the scenes look at Jeremy Clarkson's latest historical documentary. To recreate the daring Second World War Commando raid on the port at St Nazaire, the BBC enlisted the help of Cinesite, the highly regarded model makers and special effects company whose most recent work has appeared in feature films such as Harry Potter, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and V for Vendetta. The program follows the team every step of the way, from constructing a giant 24 foot long exact replica of the Commando's boat the Campbeltown (working from little more than a few contemporary photographs), to the filming of the boat in action and its spectacular explosive finale. Andy Wilman, Clarkson's long time Top Gear collaborator, is the producer of the main documentary and reveals how he convinced the BBC to sign up to this unprecedented project. [S]” |
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 7:00am |
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Hi Danny, You mentioned V for vendeta. That & orwells 1984 would be the world today if these galant men hadn't stood up to be counted. The documentary was a little cold but clarkson draws an audience & any publicity ect. If he even agreed to do it after 20 odd years of being cynical or blasia then its gotta count for something. Think his description of the small memorial was aimed at getting people thinking rather than "here it is. goodnight" Will watch with interest tonight. P.S. thanks for the tipoff |
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