Miami Class ASR?

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   Hello,
  moored off Falmouth today was a boat with a hull that looks just like a 63' Miami ASR.
  There's a good website somewhere about the 63' Miami Crash Boats, but I can't find it right now :(
  The name on the stern is caño- nero out of London; the superstructure has been modified, but I'm sure that's what the hull is...
Paul

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FlyByWire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyByWire Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Miami Class ASR? Posted: 17 June 2007 at 7:51pm
	Hello, moored off Falmouth today was a boat with a hull that looks just like a 63' Miami ASR. There's a good website somewhere about the 63' Miami Crash Boats, but I can't find it right now :( The name on the stern is caño- nero out of London; the superstructure has been modified, but I'm sure that's what the hull is... Paul

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 June 2007 at 7:40pm
	Hi Paul Canonero is indeed an ex Miami type, she was Sub Chaser RPC9 and was lend-leased to Russia during WW2, spending some years thereafter in Holland. She is pictured above in Dover in October 2006 after an engine failure. Photo;David Fricker, info; Philip Simons.

FlyByWire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyByWire Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2007 at 8:55am
	That's her alright :) The hull looks like carvel planking, but I thought the Miami 63' boats were triple diagonal marine ply? If it ever stops raining and I get out on the water again, I'll take a picture of her and post it... Thanks for the history though, Paul

FlyByWire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyByWire Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2007 at 9:07am
	Unfortunately, the website I was looking for seems to have been taken down... Here's a set of plans I found somewhere, though, which I thought people might find interesting to see how the superstructure of canonero has been modified - I'm not sure of the copyright/ownership on this, so if anybody objects, I'll take it down. Appologies for the quality - I've had to butcher the image somewhat to get it under 50KB!

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2007 at 9:24am
	Hi Paul I think most all late-war US built wood service craft had their outer layer of D/D planking laid horizontally. This certainly applies to PT Boats, licence-built HDMLs, Sub-Chasers and Crash boats.

FlyByWire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote FlyByWire Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 June 2007 at 9:49am
	Well, it didn't stop raining...but I went out anyway and got soaked - at least I got the sails up, though :) I also got these photo's, which I've put into a sort of filmstrip as I went past her...sorry about the light; it was seriously not nice out there...

Jacmac Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jacmac Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:39pm
	Hello I was aboard Canonero when she put into Brixham a few weeks back and kept meaning to get round to posting something on the forum about her. She is fitted out as a very comfortable liveaboard and is being used to cruise the world I believe! The owner was very keen to know the history of the vessel and I'm sure Christian's identification will be gratefully appreciated. I was shown an original set of blueprints which are believed to relate to her. The following is printed on them - Bu, No 603101 ALT II, Miami Shipyard. She is now powered by two massive straight-8 diesels that used to power trams in Stockholm (if my memory serves me correct), but I think the owner intends to check in on the site at some point, so maybe he will post more details at a later date. The outer planking is horizontal and the owner said that it was hardwood. Anyway, I took a few photos and will post them for those that are interested. All in all a lovely boat, I don't suppose there's many Miamis of any type still floating, so feel quite privileged to have been aboard.

Jacmac Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jacmac Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:49pm


tramontana Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote tramontana Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 June 2007 at 11:05am
	jacmac, certainly very rare in Europe although there are a few over the Pond, any engine room photo's please. Are the engines turbo and what sort of h.p are they delivering? A very nice conversion.

Jacmac Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jacmac Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 July 2007 at 12:52pm
	Hello Sorry no engine room photos, but have sent a request to the owner for photos and specs. The engines appeared to be non-turbo and where positioned aft driving through v-drives. Will update as soon as i have anything. Regards.