request info vospers
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Forum Name: Where Are Those Boats Now
Forum Description: Tell everybody where those old boats are
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Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 8:44pm
Topic: request info vospers
Posted By: folkert
Subject: request info vospers
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 9:36am
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request info vospers hello friends, Copies of the ship Files may be requested . questions, are the vospers?? posssible Ferocity?? greetings from holland http://www.dutchfleet.net/viewtopic.php?p=25862#25862 - http://www.dutchfleet.net/viewtopic.php?p=25862#25862 |
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:28am
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Hello 'folkert' These shots appear to be of two ex-Danish 'Brave' class. They are not of 'Ferocity' (Ferocity had a 'flying' wing type structure, built into the super structure just abaft a very small lattice mast) - Danish Braves are my guess - but someone may guess different. Regards ------------- Pioneer - Forum Moderator |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 10:55am
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Hi Ted and Folkert Phil Simons identifies these two boats at Antwerp on the bmpt news section, scroll down below half way down the page; http://www.bmpt.org.uk/News/news.htm - http://www.bmpt.org.uk/News/news.htm P513 Sohesten and P514 Sohunden. Definately the same two, note bridge structure in the background. Regtards, Christian.
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Posted By: folkert
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 7:40pm
OK Chaps
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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 28 January 2007 at 8:13pm
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Tally Ho Folkert P513 is/was called "Brave Seastallion", she was for sale in Dec 2005 for EUR400K at Jan Bultman Yachts brokerage (not to be found in Horse And Hounds classifieds). She still had her three Rolls Royce (jolly good show, what) turbines with 4250hp (whizzer, chocks away Ginger) each, good for 50 knots. Also two 230hp Detroit diesels for popping down the shops for the cucumber sandwiches. Toodles, Biggles. |
Posted By: folkert
Date Posted: 30 January 2007 at 6:00pm
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thanks to all for your info todays pictures http://www.dutchfleet.net/viewtopic.php?p=25862#25862 - http://www.dutchfleet.net/viewtopic.php?p=25862#25862 |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 8:43am
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Nice pictures Folkert, thanks. These were on the brokers page a year ago. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 10:21am
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Shame to see thm rotting at their moorings. Anyone know who owns them? If they were here, I'm sure somebody would have planted a caravan on top and made them into houseboats in double quick time. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: S R Wilson
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 10:41am
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Wow a fifty knot floating caravan, that would be something else! Seriously though I agree with Don. Shame to see them rotting away. Any one got any idea of fuel comsumption and viability in private hands. I assume an even deeper pocket that for an MTB etc. ------------- SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC. |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 12:00pm
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Hi All,
Been looking at the above myself, well, to run the Rolls Royce engines, a fortune let alone the maintanance, but they do have twin detroits so I guess they could be run a bit more economically? the Sweds run three petrol patrol boats featured a few years back in the BMPT mag, not sure if they get state support. Nice but....not being narrow minded I hope, but we should look in the first instance to British built vessels perhaps, though it would be great to have a collection of these craft ie the tank museum which is not just British vehicles or areoplane collections.
John |
Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 1:01pm
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The original pictures showing them moored alongside with the Bridge structure in the background were taken several years ago - since then, one at least, had been moved and restored - as Philip Simons and Christian has ID', it was/is? for sale as Sea Stallion, not sure what happened to the other as yet. Regards ------------- Pioneer - Forum Moderator |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 31 January 2007 at 4:34pm
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Thanks Pioneer...I was just curious as it seemed a shame. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 01 February 2007 at 5:13pm
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Hi Folkert I found a nicer picture of Sobjornen at Aalborg Marine Museum, download full-size at http://www.davidebianchi.net/moto/dk/tre.html - http://www.davidebianchi.net/moto/dk/tre.html Rgds, Christian. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 11:51am
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Everyone,
Saw the stream about the 50kt boats with the 3 x RR engines. As a serving naval officer with a ACPB/FCPB past, and seeing attempts to convert such to charter boats etc, the inabililty of of private enterprise to cope with the (taxpayer funded) engineering requirements of military craft tells now and will always be a problem. We should be glad if they exist as houseboats! Peter |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 February 2007 at 2:15pm
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Hi Peter,
Indeed, posted before on this, as a last resort as opposed to scrapped, a houseboat is better than nothing!
John |