ST zeta
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Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 11:36pm
Topic: ST zeta
Posted By: northeastuser
Subject: ST zeta
Date Posted: 04 July 2007 at 6:11pm
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I see the engines from the ST Zeta are for sale on the forum 'for sale' page. Anyone have any info about whats happening to the Zeta. E.G. why is she being broken up? |
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Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 04 July 2007 at 10:18pm
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Just my take on what I've heard/read but....
The owner, who is very ill has not had time to visit her at her moorings in southampton, she was put up for sale on ebay for £13k or so, during the listing the owner found she had sunk(via phone) but engines were removed when she sank, by the boatyard, the engines therefore are out of the boat and fully refurbed and ready to go, thus the engines can eaisly be sold separatley and "if it doesn't make what it owes the owner it will be broken" thus the engines are part of that, the figure I was told for it's owings is around £10k. Take from that what you will.
Is anyone interested in buying her, perhaps buying her without engines and she'd be a cheap project, S6M's are for sale for hundreds so a complete boat may be able to be had for less than £5,000 |
Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 05 July 2007 at 12:21am
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How the hell does a 40ft seaplane tender end up owing a boat yard 10k.. I thought the current owner of the Zeta has only had her for a few years. That’s one expensive boat yard or there something else going on here. ------------- |
Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 05 July 2007 at 9:34am
Sorry, must have not been very clear, "owing the owner" as in what it's cost plus any repairs etc he's had done to it, so he may have paid £8k and had 2k's worth of engine repairs, for instance. Are you interested? |
northeastuser wrote:Posted By: tramontana
Date Posted: 05 July 2007 at 10:19am
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What a shame for the Owner, I can well understand his situation in having plan's for the boat that have suddenly gone all to hell because of unexpected illness it can catch anybody out at anytime, having a boat which is only attractive to a small section of potential boat owner's is like having a "special" car you never really get back monetary wise what you have spent on it, but we still do it to stamp our mark on it, in the end the price you get is usually age related whether it's a boat, car or motorbike and to most people it's just an old wooden boat now san's engines |
Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 05 July 2007 at 10:52am
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While the Zeta looked a lovely boat in good condition I believe I have reached the point where I can no longer be sanely interested in any other vessel. Best of luck to the owner and I hope she find caring hands to take her on. ------------- |
Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 11:12am
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Hi, Spotted a pair of Perkins S6M's for sale on apolloduck for £3500. http://www.apolloduck.com/display.phtml?aid=64412  Are these from ZETA ? ------------- Advance - Runaway Quickly , Runaway Quickly |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 6:04pm
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'Fraid so;
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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 6:50pm
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http://www.bmpt.org.uk/boats%20for%20sale/Perkins_s6m_engines/index.htm - http://www.bmpt.org.uk/boats%20for%20sale/Perkins_s6m_engine s/index.htm ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 6:55pm
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Clive, Oops didn't see the Bmpt advert, sorry. ------------- Advance - Runaway Quickly , Runaway Quickly |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 8:01pm
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apologies accepted! Is anyone interested in Zeta as a 'whole' boat? I am commencing the search for period fittings and would not like to be the one who has the best bits on another boat. I have inquired about Arun but as yet I don't think the owner is prepared to undo all his hard work. So, while on the subject, I am looking for Kent screens, hatches, dashboards fuseboards/boxes, vents, deck fittings ammo boxes, etc, also anything with 'power boats' written on it. Ideally all theese items will be BPB but getting period stuff is a excellent start. while on the subject a revolving gun turret would be fun! ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 8:07pm
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Hi Clive, I was but Sentley said I might be cornering the whole Seaplane Tender market so I'd have to sell the 41'6" one before I could tackle Zeta.  I'm not sure if the owner wants to sell Zeta before the engines sell (which might take some time). I guess I'll have to call him. Cheers ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 8:11pm
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Hi Don, The advert says ominously that she is being broken up, it is not clear as to the time scale but I guess speed is as always of the essence. One man can never have to many Seaplane Tenders - Can he? ------------- Advance - Runaway Quickly , Runaway Quickly |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 8:31pm
Hi Darren, if you help me find some good bits and bobs I may be persueded to part with the transom steps from Flywood although I do quite like them  ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: d-zine
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 11:49am
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Hi Clive, Another piece of the puzzle falls into place. Without  With  I will keep my eyes peeled for parts as I am sure will everybody else on the forum. Is it worth while posting a list of desired items, I am missing 1 Nr Kent clear view screen. ------------- Advance - Runaway Quickly , Runaway Quickly |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 12:44pm
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A wanted section, there's a good idea. (Pathfinder, how about on the end of the 'for sale' section?) or perhaps a topic which we just list what we want and use the edit to update our needs? Don, as for having too many seaplane tenders, I thought on this forum we took on board all advice and then do what we want ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
go for it I recon, ring Andrew, line 'em up and put your 'lifting travelbarn' to more use!Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 August 2007 at 1:20pm
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Anyone restoring some smaller BPB boats might be interested in these brass navigation lights that are very like the originals on my little BPB boat. Only 90mm long but they look great try at: http://www.aquafax.co.uk/html/product_specification.asp?ID=8 392 
------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: burgundyben
Date Posted: 11 September 2007 at 1:55pm
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I was at the yard where Zeta is lying last night, apparently she is not to be cut up but is moving on somewhere else to be restored in the near future. She did apparently sink recently but is floating on each tide quite happily although looking rather sorry for herself. I forgot to ask if engines are still in her and not sure if they have run since the sinking so they might be ok or might be only useful as anchors! Fingers crossed someone will find the time/money/inclination to do something with her. ------------- Napier Lion engine wanted. |
Posted By: triker69uk
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 11:09pm
| that will be intresting given as a result of the sinking, she was involved in a case with marine solicitors & other legal representatives concerning possible breaches of contract & misrepresentation. so yes there very much was something a bit more going on with her, which also goes some of the way to explaining how the hell a s.t can end up owing the owner £10k that he needs to try & partly recover.( that is not speculation or just read/heard, i was involved first hand in trying to sell for the owner who was suffering from major heart attacks, not improved by the above.) |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 13 October 2007 at 12:06am
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If anyone is really interested, she's still for sale I believe (after talking to the owner). Engines are out but will be sold with her. About £8-9K should do it I believe. You'll need to pay to have engines refitted but shouldn't be much. Anthony at Foulkes Boatyard is your man Foulkes Boatyard The Riverside Boatyard, Blundell Lane, Bursledon, Southampton, SO31 1AA UK Phone 023 80406349 Email: enquiries@foulkesandsons.co.uk If I had room, I'd (nearly) be interested myself as she's a Norfolk boat. ST365 is taking up all my free space. It was rumoured when she was sold 2 years ago that she had taken part in the Dieppe raid. I've researched this but can find no mention of this being factual. Anyone know different? I hope one of us gets her!! ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 February 2008 at 3:22pm
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Does anyone know where I can an original car style steering for my ST. I've tried evertwhere. Can swap a nice Francis Searchlight for one (or the more traditional cash option!). Thanks ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 16 February 2008 at 8:06pm
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Hi Don, tap steering box into ebay, there is a Bedford one A yank one, one from a Mk 1 Cortina and a nice Austin Seven set up in Bury St Edmonds (just down the road!) and a anglia 100e but pick up only in Leicester. ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: ASR1255
Date Posted: 24 February 2008 at 5:25pm
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Hello don do you want my ST BARRACUDA for free she has the original steering box and linkages also original 6 oval portholes and drop down side windows(wheelhouse) good shafts and props she is costing me too much money each month to keep and i dont have the time to do any thing with her like i say i will give her away to a good home but if she is broken then i would like to know she has helped another of her kind i have to get rid of her sooner rather than later all the best steve....p.s i could deliver her for the cost of the diesel and a cuppa! ------------- SAVE EM ALL |
Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 03 August 2008 at 10:10pm
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Evening all, We have been informed by the boatyard that, unless someone shows a serious interest, 'Zeta' is to be broken up next week. We were offered her for whatever the cost of her engines, fittings etc. would make (less than £5k). Although the heart would love to have taken her on, the head says that we really cannot afford the mooring fees for both her and 'Hyperion' at her current location and we are not in a position to do anything about her in the short timescale involved. Surely there must be someone who wants to take her on!! I had a good look over her a few weeks ago and, while the superstructure is in a poor state, the hull and deck appear very sound. She really is too good to let go. If no one can take her on does anyone have anywhere she could be stored while work is carried out on her (Would the army consider any further space at Marchwood Richard?) Any suggestions will be gratefully received. We are trying to persuade the boatyard to extend the deadline but I fear that, if something isn't done soon then we will lose another of our historic ships forever. Hoping someone can help Gareth |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 04 August 2008 at 7:11pm
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Hi Gareth,
Seen the above and posted elsewhere, not I regret to say in a postion to offer anything, can only agree what a waste it would be, which is not worth anything I know. there are a number of these great vessels about which desearve so much better, but without skill, time and or money....it is a shame, as posted elsewhere, would be great if we did have a centre where they could go and at least be held for a time, giving a chance someone would take them on, I know some vessels had to go when BMPT had to shift from Husbands, and some did not like the loss, but what else could be done? each was assesed and attempts made to save, but without the sheds...., sorry I can offer nothing positive.
JohnK
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Posted By: Pathfinder
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 7:33am
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Good morning all,
Zeta once again ..she has been on and off the matket for so long now, the engines on the market at far too high a price. These would do well in 1502 if they go begging.
Re Marchwood, no chamce there I am afraid..the Army have been fantastic allowing us so long on site, and our time there ends March 2010. Th e need once again for the Trust to find space somewhere for its boats and bits and pieces,yet again becomes a problem.
A bit like the homeless we are moved form one doorway to another...
Being more positive, is there any mileage in asking the yard where Zeta is lodged how much they would charge a group to rent a piece of their land on an annual basis, to house portacabin , stores containers and about lets say 6 boats..even if this means puting up the sort of thing that farmes use...??
The problems are..
1. Finance...we we need a strong team ( The Team) prepared to run the place and raise funds..
2. The Team, we need nnew blood to make the future worth fighting for yet again.
I am sure the Trust would be interetsed in talking about this possibility...
anyone prepared to investigate...first boat on site Zeta..?
Richard ------------- Pathfinder - Forum Moderator |
Posted By: Pathfinder
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 7:36am
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Hi Don,
Dont have a steering wheel, but need a searchlight for 1502...would your work there..and how much pessa..?
Richard ------------- Pathfinder - Forum Moderator |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 8:22am
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Hi there,
Indeed, that would be great, presuming Zeta is around Southampton area?, perhaps a boat yard would be a good place to be, cranes etc on site, all good ideas but as you say needs a good team to sort, ie people to do not like me only able to write so to speak, fustrating I can not offer more.
JohnK |
Posted By: Jacmac
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 12:01pm
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Hello, I know it has been said elsewhere many times regarding the value ascribed to ex-WWII boats, so I won't state the obvious again. It is however a shame that when there has been strong interest with the money to back it up, vendors and their interested parties appear to detach themselves from reality and become greedy. I hope this is not the case again with Zeta, as she does offer a lot of potential to someone. I nearly bought her from Robin Swain a few years ago, the gentleman I believe saved her the first time round, but even back then she did require a significant amount of attention to the superstructure and engines. What disappoints me the most is that yards seem happy to pay to break-up and dispose of a boat, yet they won't give it away if they sniff money and save themselves the effort. Perhaps I'm under the wrong impression with these costs, as many have met their fate with a gallon of petrol and a box of Swan! Hopefully not Zeta! There is a possibility that I have somewhere for her to go here in Devon, but I probably only have the transport and storage money at my disposal, and not much else at present. In all honesty, aside from the historical and originality value of the engines, I would be looking in the long term to use more modern and efficient engines in her anyway. I know this perhaps goes against the grain somewhat, but if the vendors are attributing the real value to the engines, then perhaps I can save the rest. Incidentally, who is selling her and where is she located? Regards |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 12:56pm
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Hello Jacam,
Well said above, work for a marina so know about boats being sold off at times, we usally do it to recover storage costs, surplus if any to the former owner, not had to break a vessel here for non payment yet, understand re engines, same with the Ark Royal tender, old engines might be great as museum pieces but a b...g to keep going. I do hope that perhaps as you say you might get hold of her, you clearly understand the work needed with these old craft. A few of these ST about of course, mentioned before but only an armchair person at the moment, but perhaps we should look to see if any unique or rare examples still about and try and hold them, the Arun river class looks cheap but needs a lot of work, however a couple of others still about. Any way, look forward to hearing of any developements, it's that old thing of money as you say, small grants available ex National Historic Ships, have a web-site, but I think vessel has to be listed on the register, if Zeta is a possiblity.
JohnK
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 12:59pm
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Hello again,
Just had a look on the NHS web-site and she IS listed under a registered vessel...
JohnK
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Posted By: richard
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 1:03pm
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John
As you work for a marina, could you give us an idea of the cost to use say 2 sides of a pontoon which would accomodate a minimum 50 footer on each side, with shore power etc for say 12 months, or 5 years..?
I have to try everything and it is patently obvious that the begging routine will not work, so have to consider a paid for mooring then get motivated to find the funds to get it..
Thanks your ideas.
Richard
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Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 2:22pm
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Richard,
Spoke to dad this morning and he will talk to the boatyard ref renting space. for info their website states £325 /m /yr for a standard mooring which is about the cheapest you are likely to find in that part of the world. Will report back when I find out more.
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 3:08pm
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Hi Richard,
Well, we do annual berthing, on pontoons, for this year 01/04/08 to 31/3/09 pro rata if starting later in the year, on the Medway, inc VAT and water but not electric, on metered cable pay by units used, would be...£4005.69 (sorry PER 50 ft vessel), so...well there is the bare facts, however....say no more if you would care to PM me we could "talk".
JohnK
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Posted By: richard
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 3:27pm
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Hi John,
Thanks the info, I am looking around our area now at what is available and at what cost. At 4000 per boat per year and say 10 boats looking for floating space that makes 40000, which is a huge sum of money...and to sustain this outgoing we need a good team operating the boats to cover as much of this as possible.
I will let you know how and what we find out down here..and many thanks for your input..
Richard
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 6:26pm
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Hi Richard,
No problem, as you say, paying marina berthing is not going to be cheap, finding somewhere to berth our historic vessels is a nightmare, even owned by trusts/charities ie BMPT, no one apar from we few seem to give a ......, something I guess if we did have a place we might have a chance to change by talking about and demonstrating the craft and the main thing the people who worked them, bit chicken and egg situation. Any way, happy to provide above for what little worth, still worth a PM if you want re berthing,
JohnK
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Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 7:12pm
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Just a quick note to say that we have negotiated an extra month from the boatyard with the possibility of a lift out to properly inspect the bottom of the hull etc. This should give us a bit of time to consider our options. Gareth |
Posted By: Jacmac
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 7:20pm
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Hello Gareth, I'm a bit confused as to your involvement, please could you clarify? Do you own Zeta or represent the owners? In either case is she properly for sale, or as before, only being speculatively offered? Please don't be offended by my directness, its just a whole lot simply to know who is selling and for how much. I'm interested in her, and as I said above, I'm not overly interested in the engines. If you are in a position to provide one, a price in this condition would be appreciated. Thanks |
Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 8:33pm
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Jacmac, Apologies if I have not made my position clear. I do not represent the owners and our only connection is that Dad keeps HYPERION at the boatyard where ZETA is lying. Having noted our predilection for old military boats; the yard, having taken ownership in lieu of debt, offered ZETA to us. As stated above we would dearly love to take her on but the original tight timescale precluded us from so doing. Having negotiated with the yard, we have agreed to pay the cost of a months mooring fees and lift out in order to gain some 'breathing space' and to better ascertain her condition and viability. Negotiations are ongoing and I will report any progress. I am not in a position to give a price excluding engines but contact details for the boatyard are posted earlier in this thread. I suspect however, although this is just my opinion, that they are keen to sell 'complete' if possible. For the record I would like to state that the boatyard are being very reasonable and that ZETA does owe them a significant amount of money. They no not want to break her but have reached a position where the increasing cost of lost fees and 'caretaking' have made their position untenable. Lastly, thanks to everyone who has offered support either on the forum or by PM. I am now more hopeful of a satisfactory outcome than I was a few days ago. Gareth |
Posted By: Jacmac
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 8:46pm
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Thanks for that Gareth - succinctly put! I'm sure it will help all interested parties decide if shes for them. Regards. PS - Just as well theres people like you and your Dad who are prepared to stump up the cash to save classics like Zeta, even if this is only for a month at present - Well done! In an ideal world where money is no object I'm sure a lot more of these boats would still be here to enjoy now. Lets hope she finally gets a long-term secure home as a result of your efforts. |
Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 05 August 2008 at 10:33pm
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Wow It really is expensive down your part of the world. A 50 ft vessel in Hartlepool Marina would be 2300 pounds per year.3105 for the best spot in the marina! A war boat would be a great addition to the maritime museum already here! ------------- |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 06 August 2008 at 9:57pm
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Hi Northeastuser,
Indeed, great to hear from you as ever, south coast is very exspensive unfortunatley. Pity, but there it is, however, may be alternatives could be found, promise nothing but we shall see.
JohnK
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 06 August 2008 at 10:03pm
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Hi Again,
Just seen posts on previous page, well done to you for taking the action re Zeta, I can not offer much but am willing to do what little I can, would mention again Zeta is on the national historic ships list and could be eligable for a small grant, think max is three thousand but you need to come up with I think 25% yourself. Will try and keep a better eye on this thread!
JohnK
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Posted By: flyer
Date Posted: 06 August 2008 at 10:48pm
| hi gareth could you pm me, thanks gary |
Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 07 August 2008 at 8:03am
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Gary,
Not certain what you want me to say, but have sent you a PM anyway!
Gareth
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 09 August 2008 at 1:40pm
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Hi there,
Regards these grants from National Historic Ships, just been onto the web-site http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk - www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk grants usually up to 2,000 exception 3,000 next round of grants 1st September considerded, decision 1st October just thought I would mention it if of interest re Zeta, also from this year, vessel must have been reigisterd with them for minimum of six months, would have thought Zeta was on there for that long, but not sure.
JohnK
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 24 August 2008 at 1:27pm
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Hi there,
Know not long since last on this, but any news?
JohnK
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Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 10 September 2008 at 8:37am
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Don,
I am trying to reply to your PM but your inbox is full.
Cheers
Gareth
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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:25pm
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Hi Gareth, Sorry about that. Thanks for the heads up. Story so far. I spoke with the boatyard re Zeta and her fate seemed finalised. I have asked for (and paid for) a one month stay of execution for her. So, does anybody went to be involved with saving her...? I don't want to own her ( as I have 2 others and cannot afford another) but I'm sure a load of people who, for loads of reasons, cannot themselves afford their own boat could get together and save her. Not easy to organize I know. She's pretty cheap and fairly complete but needs a fair bit of work. Please don't post messages saying that you wish you could help but cannot. Offer a pledge (small or large) to the new owners instead or offer to put time into restoring her. If together we cannot even do this, then, as a forum, we are just that, a forum... I'll start with a pledge for £100 ... anyone else....? ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: David Earle-Pay
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 10:01am
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It's good to hear that there are people out there willing to put some effort into saving some of the old boats, it would be such a sad waste to see another one broken! It is not easy to help save these boats, and in the case of Zeta the purchase price is not high, but the difficult bit is getting the commitment of people to back the efforts of 'saving' her by a commitment to raise or donate money, find somewhere to store her so that work can be carried out, but above all the commitment to spend the time working on her! It really shouldn't matter where in the UK you live, there will always be something (no matter how small or large) that you can offer - coordinating skills, working parties, administrative abilities, transport of people and materials, scrounging and scavenging (remember the film 'The Great Escape') As Don says - if we don't do anything, we are just a forum! How important is our heritage? if its not important to you, then don't do anything, but if it is then lets see what we can do together! Zeta is not a really big mission - so shall we try??? I will also match Don's generous donation, anybody else? Best regards, David ------------- David Earle-Payne Make it idiot proof, and then someone will make a better idiot! |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 10:50am
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Hi there,
Saw this yesterday, OK, will offer the hundred as above, will mention again that she is on the register of historic ships, and MIGHT get a grant from National Historic Ships fund, we would need to offer matching funding, so the funds from others will be needed. it goes to a maximum of 3,000 ie 2,750 with 25% from the owners. Have been on her many years ago, but not clear as to hear current condition of the hull, believe the engines are out?, if someone who has seen her can send me a PM and advise the condition, and location, may try and get along and have a look. I may have a contact who is a whizz with engines. Appreciate early days, but when things start, hopefully, we will need to consider how it is run, understand as I said early days.
JohnK
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Posted By: S R Wilson
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 12:38pm
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Hi All. Happy to help with admin but no practical skills. Will chuck in my £100 as well.------------- SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC. |
Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 12:57pm
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Count me in for £100. If (When I hope) this happens I'll also look at online fundraising etc.(happy to have some backup on this Sently!) and I'm not averse to hands on work when i'm in the vicinity. Cheers
Gareth
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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 1:35pm
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Well done everyone. So far...so good. David or Gareth, if you can get photos of Zeta as she currently is, I'd be glad to host them on a page so we all can see her and have a better idea of what is involved. My email is don@rania.co.uk. Thanks ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 1:54pm
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Don,
Just spoken to Dad as he is on site. He's getting the camera out and should have some photographs shortly.
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Posted By: S R Wilson
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 4:29pm
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Heavens, if we carry on like this we might be able to get her ready for D Day!!!! 09 ------------- SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC. |
Posted By: andyht57
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 8:02pm
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Hi folks
although up in Scotland I would like to offer my £100 and any help that I can. I am a Surveyor with a strong background in carpentry and mechanics. Andy ------------- Andy T |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 02 October 2008 at 9:47pm
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Hi all,
Well, looks like we have some interest in this, be great to see the pics and decide how to go from there,
Johnk
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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 11:29am
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Hi All, There will be some good news on the Zeta front shortly. Will keep you all updated..... If she is kept at Foulkes for a few months (on the hard), does anyone know of any (retired) painters/carpenters/mechanica etc who would work on Zeta for a greatly reduced rate/beer money? Please pm me if you have any ideas as to how she can be sorted out but keeping the cost down. Photos at: www.rania.co.uk/Zeta - Thanks David ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 7:47pm
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Zeta in 2004. A credit to her previous owner: www.rania.co.uk/boat%20photos/ST/ZetaAlbum/ ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 8:58pm
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Hi Don,
Thanks for this, have just had a look at the photos, dose not at least look to bad, will PM you.
John K
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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 4:18pm
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Hi All, When Zeta was sold some years ago, the advert said that it was believed that Zeta had taken part in the in the raid on Dieppe in 1942. Quote: ...("Zeta") served as an airsea rescue boat during World War II. It is believed she also took part in the Dieppe raid with the Canadian forces and D-day invasion." I've searched but cannot find any reference to ST's at dieppe except for one of ST422 that picked up 2 or 3 survivors on 19 Aug 1942 Anyone know more about ST442 or other ST's at Dieppe? Thanks ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: S R Wilson
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 8:09pm
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Don,
Forgive me if you already know this or if I am stating the blindingly obvious. The National Historic Ships Register entry which can be read a number of ways shows, on my reading of it that Zeta was sent to Greenock as personal transport in 1942 and then to Southampton for ASR duties in 1943 which would suggest that she could not have taken part in the Dieppe Raid on the simple basis that she was not in that part of the country at the time. The same entry also shows that she took part in the D Day landings on inshoreASR duties. ------------- SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 9:30am
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Hi Sentley, I agree but it's possible that the NHSR record is incorrect so I've asked the Marine craft section at RAF Hendon for their record on Zeta. Intresting enough, I was in touch with Brooke marine who told me emailed me the following: "According to our research Brooke built two seaplane tenders in 1940 and 1946. Zeta 40ft in 1940 and Lindsey 2111 52ft in 1946" Anyone know what happened to Lindsey? Regards ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 9:40am
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The plan is for Zeta be restored and to get her to Normandy for June next year. Hopefully by then she will have moved back to Norfolk, about 3 miles from where she was first built 68 years ago. If anyone is interested in getting a group together in Norfolk to keep a few of these craft going then please get in touch. Cheers ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 7:46pm
Excellent, it will be good to have some company on the trip across! That will be 2 boats, anyone else going to join the fun! |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 11 October 2008 at 9:52pm
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Hi Don,
Just wondering how things are going with Zeta, any thoughts on my "offer" of my chap to have a look at the engines, have not mentioned to him yet till a bit more certain if wanted! he is good, has removed, stripped and re-stalled a number of engines so I HOPE I can get him along, await news.
Regards
John
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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 12:13pm
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Hi John, Thanks for that. I've pm'd you. ALL help welcome! Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 October 2008 at 5:46pm
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Have PM's Don re above, was not meant to be public! things looking good.
JohnK
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Posted By: rikky.c
Date Posted: 14 October 2008 at 9:46pm
| normandy eh,wouldnt mind doing that in my st.If i can get it done in time?Sounds good. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 25 October 2008 at 4:18pm
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Just a quick update.... Zeta is now on hard standing and the yard will look at the hole in her hull that lets her take on water. Plan is to get her dried out a bit, her hull sorted and then we'll see. If anyone has a bunch of time and wants their own boat, ST365 is available. Not free but cheap to a good home at £1000 loaded onto your transport. The money will be spent on Zeta. Possibly trade for anything interesting....? Cheers ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 18 November 2008 at 9:41pm
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Hi there,
Don, want to get in touch via PM but your inbox is full,
Johnk
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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 12:53pm
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Hi John,
Sorry about that. I've cleared it now... ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 20 November 2008 at 1:19pm
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Hi Don,
No problem, PMd you just now.
Johnk
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Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 15 December 2008 at 5:49pm
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Posted By: Magic Fingers
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 4:17pm
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Zeta is comfortable in Newsons shed after a lengthy trip from the Hamble.
I don't think she would have made it to Normandy in June as the hull is in a bad state, although repairable. There is an area of about two square metres at starboard midships undersides that needs replanking and before this can be done the "keel" has to be removed as it has been retro fitted over the plank ends at the keel proper.
Internally she is in a mess. There is hardly anything salvageable apart from the wheelhouse doors. Anything of any use has been removed so we will have to start from scratch once we get her back to a bare hull.
Having said that she is a very pretty little boat and will be worth the effort to restore.
Richard. ------------- If it ain't broke don't fix it! |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 22 April 2009 at 8:14am
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Hi Richard,
Many thanks for the update, pity re June but there it is, of course it is great that she is in good hands and will be back at some stage,
Johnk
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 May 2009 at 9:55am
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Just wanted to post that some new pics and commentary on Zeta on the Newsons site, some a bit scary as you can see re electrics, but great to see her being done now, indeed would not have been safe to get to Normandy by any means, but at least will be around for next time.
Johnk
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Posted By: Garethep
Date Posted: 12 May 2009 at 4:01pm
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Over the last 3 years I have sadly watched Zeta deteriorate from a well presented seaworthy vessel to one which was days away from being firewood. It is heartening to see her getting the attention she deserves at long last. A big thank you is due to the team at the MTB02 trust / Newsons for taking her on and I look forward to seeing her finished to their usual high standards. Having been willing on many occasions to contribute towards saving her, I would be grateful if you could provide details of the best way to make a donation towards her restoration. Regards Gareth |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 May 2009 at 4:33pm
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Hello Gareth, Just seen you post and of course agree, it is great to see her rising again, I went aboard her at Marchwood some years ago, regret to be honest at this time have nothing to offer but words, but sure more than that would be most welcome to the trust.
Johnk
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