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Topic: Help Needed
Posted By: Mutineer
Subject: Help Needed
Date Posted: 31 March 2009 at 10:44pm
Hi All,
 
I am privately trying to acquire a 1940's Naval Launch and restore her to original condition. Would anyone know of a database with photos which might reveal her ancestry? She is not a FMB she looks more like an admirals basrge or harbour craft to me.
 
Any help appreciated.



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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:07am
Hi there,
 
Well, sorry if sounds stating the obvious, but could you down load a picture of your craft? this is indeed a very good place to start, but if no picture, then dimensions, numbers, description next best, many knowledgable people here who can help I am sure.
 
Johnk


Posted By: Mutineer
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:24am
Hi John,
Many thanks for your response.
 
The craft isn't actually mine (yet). Since I don't own her I have only photgraphs which are also not mine. I just wondered if I could check photographs anywhere to produce a discussable type or genre from the stereotype. I just want to paint her as she would have been unless she turns out to have a history.
 
Thanks meanwhile.
 
M.


Posted By: Whitelady
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 10:35am
any indication of size? 45ft Medium Speed Picket boat? (See http://www.broadsrnli.org.uk/whitelady.jpg - http://www.broadsrnli.org.uk/whitelady.jpg ) 

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You don't own a boat, a boat owns you.


Posted By: Mutineer
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:27pm
Hi there, that is one beautiful boat...but 'mine' is aft cockpit 35' with twin inboard engines.


Posted By: Mutineer
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 3:00pm
I've done a very poor drawing as a bitmap image of her layout which I can e-mail to anyone willing or interested!
 
For any others with a similar problem to mine, I include the results of research resources so far,
 
Royal Naval Museum: Information Service,
Royal Naval Museum,
HM Naval Base (PP66)
Portsmouth PO1 3NH
Telephone: 023 9272 3795
Email: mailto:library@royalnavalmuseum.org - library@royalnavalmuseum.org
Web: http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org - http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org
The National Maritime Museum
The Caird Library,
National Maritime Museum,
Park Row, Greenwich,
London, SE10 9NF.
Telephone: 020 8858 4422
E-mail: mailto:library@nmm.ac.uk - library@nmm.ac.uk
Web: http://www.nmm.ac.uk - http://www.nmm.ac.uk
The photo archive may have photos of similar vessels though I would expect these to be black and white in the main. Contact details for the Photo Archive here at the Museum are:
Photograph Archive - Contact Details and Information
Imperial War Museum London (Headquarters)
Lambeth Road
London SE1 6HZ
United Kingdom
Telephone: 020 7416 5333 / 5338 / 5309
Fax: 020 7416 5355
E-mail: mailto:photos@iwm.org.uk - photos@iwm.org.uk
Books such as the following which are held in the Museum's reference library may provide useful background reading and illustrations:
ADMIRALTY. NAVAL STAFF. TRAINING AND STAFF DUTIES DIVISION
Light coastal craft: operating in the North Sea and the English Channel / by the Admiralty, Training
and Staff Duties Division. - London : Admiralty, 1943. - 39p.: ill. ; 25 cm. ( B.R. 834).
Pbk.
Annotated.
IWM Classification: 88.2(41).6/5 Accession No.: 64838
SCOTT, PETER
The battle of the narrow seas: a history of the light coastal forces in the Channel and North Sea,
1939-1945 / by Lieutenant-Commander Peter Scott. - London : Country Life, 1945. - xii,
228p., 60p. of plates: ill. (some col.), facsims., col. frontis., maps, ports. ; 25 cm. - index.
Includes newscutting "The son who had to succeed : Peter Scott" by Richard Sear.
Maps on end papers.
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 84 / 1708
JEFFERSON, DAVID
Coastal forces at war: Royal Navy 'little ships' in World War 2 / David Jefferson; foreword by
Commander Christopher W.S. Dreyer, DSO, DSC and Bar RN (retd.). - Sparkford, Somerset :
Patrick Stephens, 1996. - 208p.: ill., facsims., ports. ; 25 cm. - bibl. p.201 - index.
ISBN 1-85260-499-9
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 97 / 1136
ROWE, ALAN
Air-sea rescue in World War Two: a first-hand account of the Royal Navy North Sea Rescue
motor launches / Alan Rowe; with the collaboration of Andy Andrews. - Stroud : Alan Sutton,
1995. - 120p.: ill., frontis., plan, ports. ; 26 cm.
ISBN 0-7509-0911-0
IWM Classification: 23(=41)/5 [ Rowe, Alan] Accession No.: 96 / 718
REYNOLDS, L.C.
Mediterranean MTBs at war: short MTB flotilla operations, 1939-1945 / L.C. Reynolds and
H.F. Cooper; foreword by Rear Admiral Sir M. Morgan-Giles. - Stroud, Gloucestershire :
Sutton Publishing, 1999. - xiv, 202p.: ill., frontis., maps, ports. ; 27 cm. - bibl. p.196-198 - index.
ISBN 0-7509-2274-5
Signed by the authors.
Published in association with the Imperial War Museum.
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 99 / 2029
REYNOLDS, LEONARD A.
Home waters MTBs and MGBs at war, 1939-1945 / Leonard C. Reynolds; foreword by
Admiral of the Fleet Sir Julian Oswald. - Stroud, Gloucestershire : Sutton Publishing, 2000. - xi,
204p.: ill., frontis., maps, ports. ; 27 cm. - bibl. p.199-200 - index.
ISBN 0-7509-2518-3
Presentation copy signed by the author.
Published in association with the Imperial War Museum.
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 00 / 1946
ARMSTRONG, WARREN (PSEUD.)
H.M. small ships / by Warren Armstrong; [William E. Bennett]; written with the authority and
assistance of the Admiralty. - London : Muller, 1958. - ix, 199p., 8p. of plates: ill. ; 21 cm.
Presentation copy signed by the author.
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 40490
GRANVILLE, WILFRED
Inshore heroes: the story of H.M. motor launches in two World Wars / by Wilfred Granville and
Robin A. Kelly. - London : W.H.Allen, 1961. - 320p., 12p. of plates: ill., frontis., maps ; 23 cm.
- bibl. p.310 - index.
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 43842
REYNOLDS, L.C.
The 56th MTB/MGB Flotilla: Coastal Forces, Mediterranean 1943 to 1945 / [L.C. Reynolds]. -
N.p. : [L.C. Reynolds, 1986]. - 8p.: ill., port. ; 22 cm.
Pbk.
Signed by the author.
IWM Classification: 13(41).225 [ 56 MTB/MGB Flotilla]/5 Accession No.: K 90 / 684
HOLLAND, PHILIP
Our light coastal forces / by Philip Holland; drawings by Robert E. Groves. - London : Rolls
House, [194-?]. - 37p.: ill., figs., maps ; 12x15 cm.
Pbk..
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: K 44942
BRAY, MICHAEL
One young man's war, (1939-1946) / Michael Bray. - Worcester : Square One, 1993. - 154p.:
ill., facsim., frontis., map, ports. ; 22 cm.
ISBN 1-872017-60-6 (pbk.)
IWM Classification: 23(=41)/5 [ Bray, Francis Arthur Michaelccession No.: 93 / 1361
REYNOLDS, L.C.
Dog boats at war: a history of the operations of the Royal Navy D Class Fairmile motor torpedo
boats and motor gunboats, 1939-1945 / L.C. Reynolds; foreword by Admiral of the Fleet Lord
Lewin. - Stroud : Sutton, 1998. - x, 289p.: ill., figs., frontis., maps, ports. ; 28 cm. - bibl. p.279-
282 - index.
ISBN 0-7509-1817-9
IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 98 / 1358
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If you are unable to visit the Museum in person some of these titles may be available through inter-library loan at your local Public Library.
 
My thanks are due to Katherine Phillips of the Imperial War Museum.


Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:06pm
something like this perhaps http://www.bmpt.org.uk/boat%20histories/target/index.htm - http://www.bmpt.org.uk/boat%20histories/target/index.htm


Posted By: capella
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 7:40pm
Hi You may get most of your information from these people check the link out; http://www.worldshipsociety.org/29822.html - http://www.worldshipsociety.org/29822.html    or contact the secretary at mailto:aholtham@smallcraftgroup.freeserve.co.uk - aholtham@smallcraftgroup.freeserve.co.uk    i'm sure they might be able to help you in your search for admiralty records.Smile


Posted By: Mutineer
Date Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:43pm
Hi Capella,
The world ships site is absolute gold...many thanks for the hours of study in prospect
 
and WELCOME ABOARD
 
Mutineer.


Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 05 May 2009 at 6:56am
Mutineer
Just restating the obvious, any chance of a photo of your intended boat?
She may not be a military boat, but a photo or two will show a lot to the experts here.
AndyS



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