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   All the enthusiasum is great but not getting us anywhere. It needs to be co ordinated or we will end up tripping over ourselves, nothing will be done and the boat lost.
One person, with the authority of all needs to go out to Malta and take it from there, either sorting out some way of making her sufficently seaworthy so the a profesional skipper will bring her back or whatever is decided.
I suggest a person with experiance go over at joint expence, discuss with Captn Morgan and then report back to see if there is agreement as to next steps. No agreement no next steps.
Don has said he will put up £150 for first months storage. I am happy to put up a proportionat share of flight and accomadation costs to see if we need storage. I would offer to go myself but know nothing about how to judge the condition of the boat.
Maybe and I don't know but maybe Christian can help he being on the spot so to speak. Also if it is felt that the boat can be made safe then get the potential skipper to lok at her as well. The boat must be safe enough to make the passage.
What do you all think? 

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S R Wilson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 08 December 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 170	Post Options Post Reply Quote S R Wilson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 1:31pm
	All the enthusiasum is great but not getting us anywhere. It needs to be co ordinated or we will end up tripping over ourselves, nothing will be done and the boat lost. One person, with the authority of all needs to go out to Malta and take it from there, either sorting out some way of making her sufficently seaworthy so the a profesional skipper will bring her back or whatever is decided. I suggest a person with experiance go over at joint expence, discuss with Captn Morgan and then report back to see if there is agreement as to next steps. No agreement no next steps. Don has said he will put up £150 for first months storage. I am happy to put up a proportionat share of flight and accomadation costs to see if we need storage. I would offer to go myself but know nothing about how to judge the condition of the boat. Maybe and I don't know but maybe Christian can help he being on the spot so to speak. Also if it is felt that the boat can be made safe then get the potential skipper to lok at her as well. The boat must be safe enough to make the passage. What do you all think?
	SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC.

northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 1:47pm
	Ok I propose this. On behalf of the CCFT.( and with their permission) We find out where the bottleneck on the canals is. We cost out the movement via the canals including lifting her out and trucking her part of the way. Then putting her back in canal to finish journey. Lets just say this will cost 5k including repairs and safety precautions. ( we all cover our own travel costs and food etc.) Next 10 of us agree to put up £500 each ..or 5 of us put up 1k each. We get the agreement of Ltnt Nicolson that he is ok for us to move his vessel to the UK. Maybe he will agree to be our skipper. Then we all fly out to Malta and bring her home on behalf of the CCFT and look after her until she can be collected by them. Opinions? Ps can we have this chat on one thread! This is making me dizzy.

S R Wilson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 08 December 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 170	Post Options Post Reply Quote S R Wilson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 2:28pm
	Ok by me. Just so long as the boat is saved. Edited by S R Wilson
	SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC.

northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 2:58pm
	By Ltnt Nicolson I mean 'Lt(N) Nicholas CM Armstrong' My mistake sorry.

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 3:58pm
	Hi All, Just read all the above and agree totally with Northeastuser, firstly and foremost, we would be helping the CCFT to get the boat for Canada and thus as N says, you would need to be fully in agreement with them as to any course of action. Second, all good stuff raised re any possible voyage, I think all points have been raised so for my ten pence worth, the idea of a competent person to go and have a look and get a definitive report on her condition is vital. But again, we would need agrement with CCFT, I think Lt Armstrong has an idea that her condition might not be great and has a contact with the owners, so perhaps if I might suggest, if he and his group can see all this possible help and have a time to think and get back as to what they want to see happen. Its great to see all this enthusiasim and interest but must be tempered with some hard thought and planning, sorry if that sounds patronising, it' not meant to be. Regards John

northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 4:08pm
	I think your spot on john. One of the main reasons iv been so vocal is so that when the CCFT comes and reads this lot they will see rather quickly the options. So no matter how fruitless some of the ideas are at least there out there ‘on the table’ so to speak. Brainstorming now then solid planning?

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 4:13pm
	Hi there, Many thanks N, I to hope that the message comes across to CCFT that it is all aimned at helping them to achieve thier goal. Will let the forum cool down a bit from me, and await response from them, Regards John

K225 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 02 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote K225 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 6:52pm
	Must say the positive approach taken here is refreshing, I have no doubt this will be a very difficult and challenging undertaking. This link is the discusion going on at the Manitoba Naval Museum link. http://www.naval-museum.mb.ca/phpbb/viewtopic.php?topic=799& amp;forum=2& Hopefully 'Lt(N) Nicholas CM Armstrong' will see this and at least realize that there is a very positive support for the project. Sometimes that is all that is needied as a catalist.
	She'd roll on wet grass!

jimmy p Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 283	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimmy p Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 7:34pm
	Has anyone priced up what it would cost to truck her across france to the English channel? (checking for illegal albanians at dover) Could be stupid money but you never know until you ask. No danger of her sinking that way & theres no lay up time in gibralter waiting for people to find time to fly out & work on her(all costs money) Hopefully she could have some temporary bulkheads fitted to stiffen her up & away if going by sea, only way to know is someone having a weekend break in malta & an understanding wife
	A boat is a hole in the water surrounded by wood, into which one throws money

northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2007 at 7:52pm
	Jimmy p I volunteer you to go out there with a one way ticket and get a job in a local bar. Then you can move aboard her until she’s ready to come home. Good luck and Keep us posted ! Dam somone give me a couple of grand and I will go!