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As probably the last person to carry out any repairs to GG I can confirm that she was two layers of diagonal 1" mahogany copper nailed and roved through planking and fastened to frames.
To fit this requires total access to the interior and conversely to  remove it,  removing each rove, punching out each nail and then any other bolt or screw used to fasten to frames, stringers etc.
In reality when repairing use new timber its better, its quicker and looks better.
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Hi All,

 

Posted under modelling but thought should do so here as modelling not evey ones thing, saw documentary on the St Nazaire raid on BBC 2, shots of Wester Lady, launch of a B, and of construction. First and foremost though I should really say, what an incredible story, the sacrifice of the men, all knowing that it was incredibly dangerous and the chances of surviving so small, born out by the casualties suffered. The memorial in Falmouth was so small, I know these guys who are still with us, never want a great fuss so to speak but... I hope perhaps something can be done in relation to the WL. I know it was the destroyer that did the ramming but the MLs took on such a role and the losses extraordinray. Any way, that's my piece, I think I speak for a lot of people in my admiration for these men's efforts and sacrifice, keeping Tirpitz away from the base must have saved so many lives, as was said on the programme, she never got to attack our shipping.

 

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Missed the first half, what i saw was good. They definatly got the right presenter to draw an audience.

 about time the men & boats involved in that raid got due recognition for thier sacrifice. Hopefully a few more people know of thier extraordinary courage after watching that.

 Maybe people local to WL who didnt know what she was will take an interest in her future?? A Fully restored ML in original trim would make a fitting tribute.

 Hopefully a few people wiser to what the old guys selling poppies actually did back then

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Must agree with all of what John has said - but I was more than a little disappointed that Lt 'Micky' Wynne and his special MTB 74 was not mentioned - to me that was a major illustration of the 'self sacrifice' that that generation made for us all. This brave man 'was away' and making it back out of the estuary when he spotted the two survivors of a sunken ML clinging to a raft of sorts - although 'overloaded' he slowed to stop to pick them up and little MTB 74 was blasted out of the water by a direct hit. Lt Wynne being blown unconcious into the water but saved by CMM Lovegrove.

I will always remain in awe of the men in that raid.



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Saw the Documentry. The cold presentation of the facts as numbers, combind with the interviews with the survivors just confirms me in the belief that we must never, in this Politically correct world, allow  people to be so comfortable that they can forget.

I for one never will. I have added that memorial to my list of must visits. There is a plaque at the bottom of Trebah gardens in Cornwall that is well worth a visit. It simply state that a unit of the U.S. Cavalry left from that beach for the invasion on D Day. A simple plaque and like the Memorial in the documentry conveys so much.

 

 



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Hello,

This  TV  program  is  repeated  on  Saturday  24th  March  on  BBC 2  at  20.25  if  you  missed  it.  

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Hi Danny,

Many thanks for the above will pass onto a friend, the with the Rhine RIver Patrol boat  he would love to see it and a load of others as well as many others who missed it I am sure.

 

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Just read my last, looks like I was not really with it!, my spelling is no good I know but I can usally put a sentence together, must be the machine!

 

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Follow  up  to  original  program  :

 

Mon  26  Mar,  7:30  pm  -  8:00  pm

 

“The  Making  of..the   Greatest  Raid  of  All  Time.  Jeremy  Clarkson:...

 

An  exclusive  behind  the  scenes  look  at  Jeremy  Clarkson's  latest  historical  documentary.

To  recreate  the  daring  Second  World  War  Commando  raid  on  the  port  at  St  Nazaire,  the  BBC  enlisted  the  help  of  Cinesite,  the  highly  regarded  model  makers  and  special  effects  company  whose  most  recent  work  has  appeared  in  feature  films  such  as  Harry  Potter,  Charlie  and  the  Chocolate  Factory  and  V  for  Vendetta. 

The  program  follows  the  team  every  step  of  the  way,  from  constructing  a  giant  24  foot  long  exact  replica  of  the  Commando's  boat  the  Campbeltown  (working  from  little  more  than  a  few  contemporary  photographs),  to  the  filming  of  the  boat  in  action  and  its  spectacular  explosive  finale.

 

Andy  Wilman,  Clarkson's  long  time  Top  Gear  collaborator,  is  the  producer  of  the  main  documentary  and  reveals  how  he  convinced  the  BBC  to  sign  up  to  this  unprecedented  project.  [S]”

 

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Hi Danny,

 You mentioned V for vendeta. That & orwells 1984 would be the world today if these galant men hadn't stood up to be counted.

 The documentary was a little cold but clarkson draws an audience & any publicity ect. If he even agreed to do it after 20 odd years of being cynical or blasia then its gotta count for something. Think his description of the small memorial was aimed at getting people thinking rather than "here it is. goodnight"

 Will watch with interest tonight.

P.S. thanks for the tipoff

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