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Mutineer
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Topic: Help NeededPosted: 31 March 2009 at 10:44pm |
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Hi All,
I am privately trying to acquire a 1940's Naval Launch and restore her to original condition. Would anyone know of a database with photos which might reveal her ancestry? She is not a FMB she looks more like an admirals basrge or harbour craft to me.
Any help appreciated.
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johnk
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Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:07am |
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Hi there,
Well, sorry if sounds stating the obvious, but could you down load a picture of your craft? this is indeed a very good place to start, but if no picture, then dimensions, numbers, description next best, many knowledgable people here who can help I am sure.
Johnk
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Mutineer
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Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:24am |
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Hi John,
Many thanks for your response.
The craft isn't actually mine (yet). Since I don't own her I have only photgraphs which are also not mine. I just wondered if I could check photographs anywhere to produce a discussable type or genre from the stereotype. I just want to paint her as she would have been unless she turns out to have a history.
Thanks meanwhile.
M.
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Posted: 02 April 2009 at 10:35am |
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any indication of size? 45ft Medium Speed Picket boat? (See http://www.broadsrnli.org.uk/whitelady.jpg )
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Mutineer
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Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:27pm |
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Hi there, that is one beautiful boat...but 'mine' is aft cockpit 35' with twin inboard engines.
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Posted: 02 April 2009 at 3:00pm |
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I've done a very poor drawing as a bitmap image of her layout which I can e-mail to anyone willing or interested!
For any others with a similar problem to mine, I include the results of research resources so far,
Royal Naval Museum: Information Service,
Royal Naval Museum, HM Naval Base (PP66) Portsmouth PO1 3NH Telephone: 023 9272 3795 Email: library@royalnavalmuseum.org Web: http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org The National Maritime Museum
The Caird Library, National Maritime Museum, Park Row, Greenwich, London, SE10 9NF. Telephone: 020 8858 4422 E-mail: library@nmm.ac.uk Web: http://www.nmm.ac.uk The photo archive may have photos of similar vessels though I would expect these to be black and white in the main. Contact details for the Photo Archive here at the Museum are:
Photograph Archive - Contact Details and Information
Imperial War Museum London (Headquarters) Lambeth Road London SE1 6HZ United Kingdom Telephone: 020 7416 5333 / 5338 / 5309 Fax: 020 7416 5355 E-mail: photos@iwm.org.uk Books such as the following which are held in the Museum's reference library may provide useful background reading and illustrations:
ADMIRALTY. NAVAL STAFF. TRAINING AND STAFF DUTIES DIVISION
Light coastal craft: operating in the North Sea and the English Channel / by the Admiralty, Training and Staff Duties Division. - London : Admiralty, 1943. - 39p.: ill. ; 25 cm. ( B.R. 834). Pbk. Annotated. IWM Classification: 88.2(41).6/5 Accession No.: 64838 SCOTT, PETER
The battle of the narrow seas: a history of the light coastal forces in the Channel and North Sea, 1939-1945 / by Lieutenant-Commander Peter Scott. - London : Country Life, 1945. - xii, 228p., 60p. of plates: ill. (some col.), facsims., col. frontis., maps, ports. ; 25 cm. - index. Includes newscutting "The son who had to succeed : Peter Scott" by Richard Sear. Maps on end papers. IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 84 / 1708 JEFFERSON, DAVID
Coastal forces at war: Royal Navy 'little ships' in World War 2 / David Jefferson; foreword by Commander Christopher W.S. Dreyer, DSO, DSC and Bar RN (retd.). - Sparkford, Somerset : Patrick Stephens, 1996. - 208p.: ill., facsims., ports. ; 25 cm. - bibl. p.201 - index. ISBN 1-85260-499-9 IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 97 / 1136 ROWE, ALAN
Air-sea rescue in World War Two: a first-hand account of the Royal Navy North Sea Rescue motor launches / Alan Rowe; with the collaboration of Andy Andrews. - Stroud : Alan Sutton, 1995. - 120p.: ill., frontis., plan, ports. ; 26 cm. ISBN 0-7509-0911-0 IWM Classification: 23(=41)/5 [ Rowe, Alan] Accession No.: 96 / 718 REYNOLDS, L.C.
Mediterranean MTBs at war: short MTB flotilla operations, 1939-1945 / L.C. Reynolds and H.F. Cooper; foreword by Rear Admiral Sir M. Morgan-Giles. - Stroud, Gloucestershire : Sutton Publishing, 1999. - xiv, 202p.: ill., frontis., maps, ports. ; 27 cm. - bibl. p.196-198 - index. ISBN 0-7509-2274-5 Signed by the authors. Published in association with the Imperial War Museum. IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 99 / 2029 REYNOLDS, LEONARD A.
Home waters MTBs and MGBs at war, 1939-1945 / Leonard C. Reynolds; foreword by Admiral of the Fleet Sir Julian Oswald. - Stroud, Gloucestershire : Sutton Publishing, 2000. - xi, 204p.: ill., frontis., maps, ports. ; 27 cm. - bibl. p.199-200 - index. ISBN 0-7509-2518-3 Presentation copy signed by the author. Published in association with the Imperial War Museum. IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 00 / 1946 ARMSTRONG, WARREN (PSEUD.)
H.M. small ships / by Warren Armstrong; [William E. Bennett]; written with the authority and assistance of the Admiralty. - London : Muller, 1958. - ix, 199p., 8p. of plates: ill. ; 21 cm. Presentation copy signed by the author. IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 40490 GRANVILLE, WILFRED
Inshore heroes: the story of H.M. motor launches in two World Wars / by Wilfred Granville and Robin A. Kelly. - London : W.H.Allen, 1961. - 320p., 12p. of plates: ill., frontis., maps ; 23 cm. - bibl. p.310 - index. IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 43842 REYNOLDS, L.C.
The 56th MTB/MGB Flotilla: Coastal Forces, Mediterranean 1943 to 1945 / [L.C. Reynolds]. - N.p. : [L.C. Reynolds, 1986]. - 8p.: ill., port. ; 22 cm. Pbk. Signed by the author. IWM Classification: 13(41).225 [ 56 MTB/MGB Flotilla]/5 Accession No.: K 90 / 684 HOLLAND, PHILIP
Our light coastal forces / by Philip Holland; drawings by Robert E. Groves. - London : Rolls House, [194-?]. - 37p.: ill., figs., maps ; 12x15 cm. Pbk.. IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: K 44942 BRAY, MICHAEL
One young man's war, (1939-1946) / Michael Bray. - Worcester : Square One, 1993. - 154p.: ill., facsim., frontis., map, ports. ; 22 cm. ISBN 1-872017-60-6 (pbk.) IWM Classification: 23(=41)/5 [ Bray, Francis Arthur Michaelccession No.: 93 / 1361 REYNOLDS, L.C.
Dog boats at war: a history of the operations of the Royal Navy D Class Fairmile motor torpedo boats and motor gunboats, 1939-1945 / L.C. Reynolds; foreword by Admiral of the Fleet Lord Lewin. - Stroud : Sutton, 1998. - x, 289p.: ill., figs., frontis., maps, ports. ; 28 cm. - bibl. p.279- 282 - index. ISBN 0-7509-1817-9 IWM Classification: 13(41).43/5 Accession No.: 98 / 1358 The Reading Room of the Department of Printed Books is open to the public by prior appointment from Monday to Saturday, 10.00am to 5.00pm, and no readers' tickets or other forms of identification are required. Simply let us know via Ask New Question Appointment to visit the Reading Room or by telephone on (020) 7416-5344 when you have a particular date in mind, at least two working days in advance.
If you are unable to visit the Museum in person some of these titles may be available through inter-library loan at your local Public Library.
My thanks are due to Katherine Phillips of the Imperial War Museum.
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Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:06pm |
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something like this perhaps http://www.bmpt.org.uk/boat%20histories/target/index.htm
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 7:40pm |
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Hi You may get most of your information from these people check the link out;http://www.worldshipsociety.org/29822.html or contact the secretary at aholtham@smallcraftgroup.freeserve.co.uk i'm sure they might be able to help you in your search for admiralty records.
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Posted: 21 April 2009 at 10:43pm |
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Hi Capella,
The world ships site is absolute gold...many thanks for the hours of study in prospect
and WELCOME ABOARD
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Posted: 05 May 2009 at 6:56am |
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Just restating the obvious, any chance of a photo of your intended boat? She may not be a military boat, but a photo or two will show a lot to the experts here. AndyS |
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