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Hi

Yep got my copy from him too!! £25 cant go wrong..as long as were not all buying the same copy!

I will get a copy of wooden boat if I can find it...Ive often wondered if it was possible to build a "new" Fairmile if the plans still exist i.e. the elusive "D"!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMSmith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2007 at 8:24pm

Guess the bookshop has a box full. Not an expert on compond interest but £14.95 cover price 1989, to £25.00 today doesn't seem that bad compared with the increase in RPI.

Ref building a new D, has anyone out there built or thought of building a scale MTB/MGB, maybe 1/4 size or so? Might be an interesting exercise, especially to see how a smaller hull performs, etc.... Might need to modify accomodation and superstructure, unless you can find a midget to drive it.

 

 

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Thought about it as a little scaled down mtb to use on river. its viable to the spitfire boys. Too many real ones needing help to worry about that for a while, maybe one day when the originals are all safe
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMSmith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 2007 at 9:20pm

Point taken, about saving originals, that has to be a priority. There are parallels with the aeroplane and train world as recent posts have proved. I'd like to believe that all originals could be saved but recent events worry me a little. I know how fast wooden boats can deteriorate and recent losses prove that unless a well kept boat is maintained that way it can soon be beyond economic repair to recommission for sea. Perhaps some more could be saved as static land based exhibits.

Which brings me back on track. Are there any, published, books, lists etc.. of what ww2 craft survive and where?

 

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Hi All

Got copy of Fast Boats.... today, bad news is I may have read it in a couple of days! Very interesting, typical story of UK Govt incompetance...ignoring the need for decent engines before the war etc.

Also just got "E-Boat Alert" by James Foster Tent about defending the D Day fleet from E Boats.

Ref Survivor lists, there are certainly many lists of the individual types existing, Christain is the person to ask, also the Trust historian Phil Simons.

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Hello marksaab,

Re 'E-Boat Alert'

I have found that if you read a few pages and find a glaring mistake it sours the rest of the book - there are a couple of howlers within the pages (HMS Scimitar was not one of the US four stackers) and later (S130 was certainly not 'broken up' at Wilmshaven) you can expect some later news on that particular boat!! It is a shame that James Foster Tent was not nearly as thorough in his research as the book suggests.

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While building my model type 2 I have thought it would be easier to construct a 1/3 or 1/4 scale as the margin for error as far greater!!

  problem is a 3rd scale would only be 5 feet wide in the middle and 3 at the transom, mind you a 1/4 scale  15 foot open top boat with  double diagonal 1/4 marine ply and a jet ski drive sounds interesting, hmmm.

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 Sounds like it could be fun Clive. Have trouble fitting in 506's bilges so may be a firebrigade job with a scaled down whaleback.

 Also toyed with the idea of a 1:1 fibreglass replica that could be abused stupidly & blown up if a film company fancied the bill. Not the same as a wooden boat with her little imperfections though(or major imperfections with some). Think when all the originals safe i'll look into a scaled type two, could be a scream! Maybe even a race series to relieve the hassles of rebuilding originals. May as well add some fun to our efforts

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Hi there,

 

Interesting discussion above, John Lamberts book anatomy of the ship on the D has drawings and plans for the D, so possible? to re-build from there mayby, quite understand re saving what existis of course. Always seeing replica sailing ships so....but of course would cost a fair few pounds, and as I said should look to save what we have.

 

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Hi All

Did my usual reading habit with E Boat Alert and read a the end first, now doing the middle!  I will look out for the errors!! I guess some will always be inevitable..I would have thought wartime needs produced some strange results...certainly on aircraft repairs where it was not unknown for one aircraft to be rebuilt from the front half of one and the back half of another!

However the S-130 error is a bit bad!!

Any news on the 3rd Volume of John Lamberts series? was it going to cover BPB boats?

Happy reading!   Mark

    

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